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To: JohnathanRGalt
I have considered the camp issue, and, frankly, I think they're a reasonable approach to the present crises. We have a substantial number of enemies within the borders. How many of us - not merely fellow Americans, but folks right here on Free Republic - are we willing to sacrifice? Are we willing to accept the consequences of radiological bombs? Of bio-terrorism? It doesn't take a genius, nor does it take a large organization to kill lots of innocent people. The tools are available (widely, easily available) right now in our society.

The reaction seems to be "Yeah, but what about when Hillary becomes President? You'll be sorry then! You, neutrino - YOU! - will be sent to the camps!"

I looked up some information on the Japanese camps. Frankly, they didn't sound much worse than a certain motel I stayed in on a business trip to the panhandle of Texas some years ago. If they want to send me to camp, I could use the time to catch up on my reading. Frankly, if they get down to me, they'll have about 3/4 of the population behind wire...so I won't lack for company, anyway.

An excerpt: "The engineers typically designed the fenced camps in block arrangements wherein each block contained 14 barracks, 1 mess hall and 1 recreation hall on the outer edges, and ironing, laundry, and men's and women's lavatories on the interior. Households were assigned space in the spartan 100 by 20 foot family structures of wood and tar paper according to the number of people in their household. Other structures in the camp were designated for dry and cold warehouses, car and equipment repair and storage, administration, schools, canteens, library, religious services, hospitals, and post office. Cooperatives purchased and distributed merchandise; efficient work groups formed around the manufacture of camouflage nets and ship models used as training aids for naval personnel; vegetables and fruit were cultivated for camp and commercial consumption; and livestock was bred and raised. At one camp, a honeymoon cottage was set aside for the exclusive use of newlyweds; at another, 662 babies were born while 221 adults spent their last day on earth behind the wires."

Here's the link, if you wish to see more: Camps

68 posted on 08/15/2002 1:14:00 PM PDT by neutrino
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To: neutrino
How many of us - not merely fellow Americans, but folks right here on Free Republic - are we willing to sacrifice?

You have convinced me. I shall not object to your endless incarceration, without formal charges. Good luck.

74 posted on 08/15/2002 1:23:31 PM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: neutrino
Hey, let's all join in with a rousing chorus of the camp song, shall we?

THAT DAMNED FENCE

They've sunk the posts deep into the ground They've strung out wires all the way around. With machine gun nests just over there, And sentries and soldiers everywhere. We're trapped like rats in a wired cage, To fret and fume with impotent rage; Yonder whispers the lure of the night, But that DAMNED FENCE assails our sight.

We seek the softness of the midnight air, But that DAMNED FENCE in the floodlight glare Awakens unrest in our nocturnal quest, And mockingly laughs with vicious jest.

With nowhere to go and nothing to do, We feed terrible, lonesome, and blue: That DAMNED FENCE is driving us crazy, Destroying our youth and making us lazy.

Imprisoned in here for a long, long time, We know we're punished--though we've committed no crime, Our thoughts are gloomy and enthusiasm damp, To be locked up in a concentration camp.

Loyalty we know, and patriotism we feel, To sacrifice our utmost was our ideal, To fight for our country, and die, perhaps; But we're here because we happen to be Japs.

We all love life, and our country best, Our misfortune to be here in the west, To keep us penned behind that DAMNED FENCE, Is someone's notion of NATIONAL DEFENCE!

Were these people somehow different American citizens than the rest?

76 posted on 08/15/2002 1:24:35 PM PDT by Hoosier Patriot
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To: neutrino
Thank you for that link. How utterly revolting. I've read enough about the ww2 camps, but the photos really drive it home. Creeeeepy.
102 posted on 08/15/2002 4:07:30 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: neutrino
"221 adults spent their last day on earth behind the wires"

Here is the most chilling part ; and NONE of those people were convicted of a crime or of taking arms against their new country.

All you self-titled "patriots" are no better than the Germans who shouted "Heil" because it was there country ; nor can I respect persons who shout "America -love it or leave it"

If you TRULY love America , the land of the free and home of the brave, you do not blindly follow , you do not desire your fellow citizens be deprived of their rights without a fair trial.An act of barbarity by an enemy is no reason to punish your fellow citizens, Giving ONE or a FEW persons the power to simply declare a person outside the protections of our constitution is the height of folly.

On the other hand, immediate detention followed by swift deportation for those here illegally could go a long way towards making the nation more free, more safe , and better economically by removal of social service parasites. Vincente Fox is miffed over the execution of a Mexican national convicted of murder ; let's give him back a couple million of his "undocumented workers" and let him deal with them. Likewise deport all the other illegals. No one's rights need be violated in doing this simple, obvious step.

105 posted on 08/15/2002 4:14:36 PM PDT by hoosierham
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