[ultima ratio]

What makes you think this wasn't always the case with those in the Church? Do you suppose devout Catholics don't turn to Jesus daily? If you suppose this, you do not appreciate the faith they practice, despite the hijacking of their Church hierarchy by modernists and heretics.

[berned]

Evangelical Christians believe, from the Bible, that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will come when Israel accepts Jesus as their Messiah. That is the "trigger" that Jesus is waiting for before He chooses to return.

If you were Satan, what would be your strategy to prevent this? It's not too difficult to formulate one...

First of all, kill all the Jews (via Inquisition and Nazi Holocaust) . Okay, that didn't work...

Next, prevent the re-creation of Israel as a nation, via Pope Pius XII applying political pressure to FDR to NOT let Israel come back to their Biblical Homeland (Here's the link to Pius's letter to FDR --

http://www.angelfire.com/ky/dodone/Pius.html

Okay THAT didn't work... Then, as a last resort, at all costs, keep the Jews from accepting Jesus as their Messiah. by convincing them that they don't NEED to. That's what the Roman Catholic Church is up to nowadays.

The pattern is grossly obvious, but to point it out is to be flamed as a "Catholic-hating bigot".

[RedBloodedAmerican]

No, I don't suppose that. And my comment was somewhat toungue in cheek. Somewhat. Having grown up in RC Church (St Thomas Moore, Portland, OR) I can attest to my comment. Some will know what I mean, some will likely be offended.