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To: Poohbah
What's your reason for trying to shut certain people up?

Well, when they advocate insurrection by the armed forces, or extraconstitutional force against political enemies, or armed revolt, they've kinda wandered away from the ideals of Free Republic. Those who are merely misguided fools (like you) get a pass. The ones actively advocating armed revolt and the like get abuse reported.

Well look at this.

You admit you try to shut people up who don't 'live up to the ideals (as if you are the definer of them!) of free republic', which you define as advocating mayhem and armed violence (essentially things harmful to life liberty and property), and criticize me for saying that my goal is to silence wrong people whose ideas are dangerous to life liberty and property. I think you'd sooner silence someone than I would!

(be careful though, because Patrick Henry advocated "armed revolt". I don't think you really thought your above statement through)

And I'm the hypocrit?!

When one advocates that foreign terrorists on US soil should have IVth Amendment rights to be secure in their effects (like Luis Gonzalez advocates), one "advocates insurrection by the terrorist's armed forces, and extraconstitutional force against political enemies of the US, and armed revolt."

It was quite an aid and comfort to Zacharias, knowing that his computer was secure. Look at all the life, and property that was probably lost because someone thought they needed a warrant to search his computer. We'll never know for sure what was on it. I just hope for people like Luis' sake there wasn't a chance to get the jump on the jihadies that was blocked by a wrong interpretation of the Constitution.

Treason is defined as giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States. I'll give you and Luis a pass, because I think you haven't thought this through. That's what my purpose is. To get you to think this through, and to silence your wrongness.

633 posted on 08/20/2002 5:53:13 PM PDT by H.Akston
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To: H.Akston
You admit you try to shut people up who don't 'live up to the ideals (as if you are the definer of them!) of free republic', which you define as advocating mayhem and armed violence (essentially things harmful to life liberty and property), and criticize me for saying that my goal is to silence wrong people whose ideas are dangerous to life liberty and property. I think you'd sooner silence someone than I would!

I don't silence them anywhere beyond the boundaries of Free Republic. They are perfectly free to post their drivel elsewhere.

(be careful though, because Patrick Henry advocated "armed revolt". I don't think you really thought your above statement through)

I have thought it through--you most assuredly haven't. If you think that America is facing a situation paralleling that of Patrick Henry, then you have no business posting on FR.

And I'm the hypocrit?!

No, you're simply a fool.

When one advocates that foreign terrorists on US soil should have IVth Amendment rights to be secure in their effects (like Luis Gonzalez advocates), one "advocates insurrection by the terrorist's armed forces, and extraconstitutional force against political enemies of the US, and armed revolt."

I suggest you read A Man For All Seasons, or watch the excellent movie made of it.

Would you, like Roper, cut down every law in America to get at the Devil? If you did, and the Devil turned round on you, where would you shelter?

It was quite an aid and comfort to Zacharias, knowing that his computer was secure. Look at all the life, and property that was probably lost because someone thought they needed a warrant to search his computer.

Look at all the life that would be lost after the appellate courts had thrown out the evidence because of your wrong interpretation of the Constitution, and the would-be hijackers walked.

We'll never know for sure what was on it. I just hope for people like Luis' sake there wasn't a chance to get the jump on the jihadies that was blocked by a wrong interpretation of the Constitution.

Your interpretation of the Constitution has been rejected since Day One of the Republic.

Treason is defined as giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States. I'll give you and Luis a pass, because I think you haven't thought this through. That's what my purpose is. To get you to think this through, and to silence your wrongness.

You will fail. First, you will fail because I am not wrong, you are. Second, because you can only silence me through the application of physical violence against my person. You don't want to go there, unless you wish to commit suicide by former Marine.

634 posted on 08/20/2002 6:05:58 PM PDT by Poohbah
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