Constitutionalist blames police for fatal shootout (shooting in Massillon, Ohio)

The Canton Repository (Ohio) ^ | August 13, 2002 | ED BALINT

[sinkspur]

THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR THE CREATION OF ARTIFICIAL ENTITIES WHICH IS WHAT CORPORATIONS ARE!

You're reading too much Irwin Schiff or Bob Schulz or William Cooper.

What on earth does this have to do with killing a cop?

[Catspaw]

All power comes ultimately from the People. No State is allowed to usurp any power. And no government, Local, State, or National, is allowed to interfere with any of the rights that will forever be retained by the People.

So in essence, exodus, the rights of the people, and each individual, are anything they say they are, and that each person is entitled to follow what they see fit, on that given day and at that given time.

[Freemyland]

Actually, the Constitution did not create the common law.

[AppyPappy]

In this case it's against people who believe that government should be strictly limited to it's enumerated powers.

In this case, a policeman died because someone thought he exceeded his "constitutional bounds".

[wimpycat]

ROFLMAO!!! For your information, Common Law as it was imported to the US was the brainchild of the ENGLISH legal system dating back to the days of Henry II of England, and tweaked by Edward I of England.

THERE IS NO PROHIBITION IN THE CONSTITUTION AGAINST ADMINISTRATIVE OR STATUTORY LAW!!

You're the one who can't follow point A to point B. You're the one WHO CAN'T GRASP THE CONCEPT:

IF IT'S NOT PROHIBITED, IT'S ALLOWED!!!

[f.Christian]

FR wolf pack---sheoples!

[Maelstrom]

OH? You have new information? Where is it from?

And are you trying to say that everyone who feels this way is a potential terrorist? You've implied it in previous posts.

Please clarify.

[AppyPappy]

And no government, Local, State, or National, is allowed to interfere with any of the rights that will forever be retained by the People.

Unless the People CHOOSE officials to create laws to limit themselves (ie speeding).

[carenot]

Oh, I remember Cooper.

http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/nov/06/arwc110601.htm

[american spirit]

Ok I give, where have I been proven wrong on anything I've posted. I doubt you or anyone can prove that city codes, ordinances, etc. are constituional and that's been my main point all along.

[AppyPappy]

And are you trying to say that everyone who feels this way is a potential terrorist?

Everyone who kills innocent lives for their belief in their own version of a constitution is a terrorist. Everyone who advocates violence for that belief is a terrorist.

[AppyPappy]

I doubt you or anyone can prove that city codes, ordinances, etc. are constituional and that's been my main point all along.

They are laws created by Constitutionally elected officials; therefore they are Constitutional. The only time they are not is when they attempt to override Constitutionally derived civil rights

[wimpycat]

Ok I give, where have I been proven wrong on anything I've posted. I doubt you or anyone can prove that city codes, ordinances, etc. are constituional and that's been my main point all along.

Do you suffer from short term memory loss? As I said before, the burden of proof is on YOU to prove it's unconstitutional. What provision(s) are violated by city codes and ordinances?

[exodus]

Don Matthews didn't have a lot of money. As you can see from the picture, his friends don't have money either.
- exodus

To: exodus
What's your standard for not having a lot of money? They claim that "over $200,000" worth of fireworks were "stolen" by the police. Dunno about you, but that sounds like a lot of money to me - they ain't talking about a couple of packs of Black Cat firecrackers here...
# 84 by general_re
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You should pay attention to what you post, general_re. You took the fireworks story out of context.

Just as seing a story here on FreeRepublic doesn't mean that Jim Robinson was personally involved in the story, so Don Matthews reporting a story about $200,000 worth of fireworks doesn't mean that he paid for the fireworks himself.

Police interfere with Federally and State Licensed Pyrotechnicians.

On July 27th, 1998. An annual fireworks convention and show at Weedsport NY was interfered with by a New York City Task Force, NYC Bomb squad and some members illegally pretending to be ATF agents.

New York City is about 300 miles from Weedsport.

These Thugs held 8 Federally licensed pyrotechnicians captive on the side of the road for periods up to 12 hours. They also confiscated (stole) their merchandise valued at over $200,000, this is known as Grand Theft.

These incompetent Thugs also took the confiscated fireworks to a quarry and tried to explode them all, but they left live charges scattered around the quarry. By which could cause serious harm to the public.

They did this under the pretense of enforcing an unconstitutional law which states that if an individual has over $50.00 in fireworks in their possession, they are presumed (thought crime) to have this for sale.

As shown, these thugs were totally out of their jurisdiction.

All in all we have Kidnapping, Grand Theft, False impersonation of Federal Agents, Destruction of private property, and enforcement of unconstitutional laws.

[amused]

Ok I give, where have I been proven wrong on anything I've posted. I doubt you or anyone can prove that city codes, ordinances, etc. are constituional and that's been my main point all along.

The tyranny of the majority in your community is to blame.

But I see your point, from now on I am ignoring all stop signs.

"Out of my way, I am a motorist!!!!!"

[Catspaw]

Ok I give, where have I been proven wrong on anything I've posted. I doubt you or anyone can prove that city codes, ordinances, etc. are constituional and that's been my main point all along.

The burden of proof is on you and you haven't proved anything, except to spew some hysterical posts.

Oh, and when you're providing the documentation for your assertions, please highlight where one has the constitutional right to kill a cop.

[dighton]

"Out of my way, I am a motorist!!!!!"

Needs a bit of touching-up.

"Out of the way, I am a SOVEREIGN motorist!!!!!"

[general_re]

Just as seing a story here on FreeRepublic doesn't mean that Jim Robinson was personally involved in the story, so Don Matthews reporting a story about $200,000 worth of fireworks doesn't mean that he paid for the fireworks himself.

No, but when you assert that his friends didn't have a lot of money, and I post evidence that his friends had enough money for $200K worth of fireworks, it sort of belies the notion that they were living hand to mouth. I never claimed that Matthews himself had those fireworks - I posted that to point out that "his friends" certainly did.

[american spirit]

Read #134 please and try to understand the reality of what that post is trying to tell you and some of the other "deep" thinkers on this thread. Your assertion that "if it's not prohibited it's allowed" is so ludicrous as well as moronic.
Don't you think every tyrant in history has used that same rationale?

[wimpycat]

They did this under the pretense of enforcing an unconstitutional law which states that if an individual has over $50.00 in fireworks in their possession, they are presumed (thought crime) to have this for sale.

Which portion(s) of the Constitution are violated by this particular firecracker law? Hmmmmm? You can ramble on and dump this BS all over FR all you want, but unless you can cite the specific provisions in the Constitution that are violated, then you're just spinning your wheels and not proving anything at all.