Authorities: Gunman was threat in ’98 (Massillon, Ohio)

The Canton Repository (Ohio) ^ | August 13, 2002 | ROBERT WANG and EDD PRITCHARD

[ResistorSister]

There were other hints as to what might happen. The day after Calhoun’s encounter with Matthews, the owner of the Hidden Arms shooting range in Canal Fulton told Canal Fulton police that he’d overheard Matthews talking about a “constitutionalist group” while he was at the shooting range.

The owner told police that Matthews said he had just gotten a ticket in Jackson Township, and “was bragging that when the officers traffic-stop him again or come to pick him up on the warrant, he is going to kill them.”

Matthews was out of his mind.

[ResistorSister]

If anyone would like to see the rest of the story threads on this event...just type the word: massillon - into the forum's search engine.

[Physicist]

Matthews cited the U.S. Constitution, state law and court decisions in the redress of grievance. He filed two copies; one with a petition signed by two other Constitutionalists and the second with a petition signed by 14 Constitutionalists.

It's a shame these clowns never heard of the 10th Amendment, which gives the several States the right to set traffic laws and such.

[Catspaw]

Essentially, Matthews decided on this course of conduct over four years prior to his murder of Officer Taylor: he was going to kill any cop that got in his way, and he followed through on those threats.

[1234]

it's startin to sound as if there shoulda been a court hearing on this guy, for the protection of the community-a long time ago. a TDO really woulda been appropriate....

[basil]

After reading all of this stuff, I can't help but wonder if this mad man planned this thing. It sounds to me like he was itching for a showdown with the police.

[robertpaulsen]

"Matthews eventually pleaded no contest, paid a fine of $167 and obtained a driver’s license."

So much for his constitutional convictions.

[MD_Willington_1976]

the “ammunition he uses is deadly and will go through any body armor that the average police officer wears.”

Oh you mean most FMJ rifle ammo or hunting ammo..

Unless those cops are wearing armor with level 3 or 4 trauma plates there are quite a few types of ammunition that will go through their average level 2-A or level 3-A body armor without trauma plates...hell even an icepick or a well placed knitting needle can get trough body armor..

check it out
www.bulletproofme.com

[ResistorSister]

So much for his constitutional convictions.

Maybe, this time - he thought he had to make up for giving in the last time. :-(

[ResistorSister]

he was going to kill any cop that got in his way

Yep...that was his bottom line...and his pride would not let him rethink the stupidity of that bottom line.

[ResistorSister]

What is a TDO?

[ResistorSister]

Thanks for the the info

[1234]

TDO=temporary detaining order is issued by a judge at the request of a caregiver, family member, etc. when a person is deemed to be a threat to him/herself or others. a court hearing is required for evidence for and against the continued incarceration, usually in a non-prison facility. seems to come into play in mental health arena 'cause anything else: cops bust ya.

[ResistorSister]

Oh! OK - thanks for the info.

[exodus]

"Matthews eventually pleaded no contest, paid a fine of $167 and obtained a driver’s license."

To: ResistorSister
So much for his constitutional convictions.

# 7by robertpaulsen

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In the movies, that's called "paying protection money." The analogy is a perfect fit, for just as you pay "protection money" to purchase a right you already own from gangsters, you pay fines and license fees to purchase the right you already have to travel on our roads.

The use of the roads is not a privilege, it is the right of every citizen. Travel is a right, just as self-defense is. Requiring a fee to purchase the use of a right is an un-Constitutional infringement on that right.

Your hard-earned money belongs to you, robertpaulsen. If a man walked up to you and said, "I need your money, share with me," you would stand on your right of ownership and tell him to take a hike. If that same man pulled a gun on you, you would regretfully, but dutifully, hand over your money.

So much for your convictions of ownership. Socialist. See ya next week, Comrade.

[robertpaulsen]

I wasn't aware that the State of Ohio infringed on Matthews' freedom to travel. Could you point that out to me?

I did read that he was driving a car without a license, which was against Ohio state laws. Is that what you're referring to? Driving a car is a right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution? I missed that.

To say that I give up my 'conviction of ownership' if someone steals money from me at the point of a gun is asinine. Nobody "pulled a gun on" Matthews and forced him to drive, nor did they "pull a gun on" him and force him to get a license. He voluntarily decided to give in to the system. Hence, my comment.

BTW, aren't the airlines violating your 4th amendment 'right to be secure against unreasonable searches'? Or do you just push your way past security? Or do you not fly? (Hint: The U.S. Constitution is a Federal document. It is not a State document. It is not a personal document.)

[Poohbah]

I hope this little s**t has Mohammed Atta for a bunk buddy down in Hades.

[Poohbah]

The use of the roads is not a privilege, it is the right of every citizen.

And they may walk or hire passage in a vehicle to their heart's content.

[Demidog]

There are alot of lies in this article. Every word of the article is not based on interviews of the actual people who allegedly heard Matthews make threats but is entirely based on hearsay gleaned from police reports.

[Shooter 2.5]

There were other hints as to what might happen. The day after Calhoun?s encounter with Matthews, the owner of the Hidden Arms shooting range in Canal Fulton told Canal Fulton police that he?d overheard Matthews talking about a ?constitutionalist group? while he was at the shooting range.

The owner told police that Matthews said he had just gotten a ticket in Jackson Township, and ?was bragging that when the officers traffic-stop him again or come to pick him up on the warrant, he is going to kill them.?


Look for the interview with the wife and she said the same thing.