Posted on 08/11/2002 4:01:50 PM PDT by 1bigdictator
PS Doesn't the title "the Darkness of the Palistinian Vision" sound like Warcraft II "The Tides of Darkness?" As if the Pallies were an Orcish horde storming through a portal, invading our diminsion! What blatant demonization. Lok-Tar!
It's not the best solution for the problem which does exist in the relaity of Israel. The best one would be, IMHO, to relocate all the Pallies from Judea, Samaria, and Galilea to the Gaza Strip, and then use the neutron bomb.
Woddyasay, Aryan Piso?
At the young age of fourteen, he entered into the service of his uncle Nur ed-Din another great and respected Arab warrior. Another mentor of the young Saladin was the Saracen chief Zenghi who in 1144 overthrew the city of Edessa, an outpost of Western world for many years prior because of its proximity to Antioch. Saladin learned his military lessons well and soon began to stand out among Nur ed-Din's forces. In several campaigns between the years of 1164 and 1169 C.E. he had made a lasting impression on his peers.
In 1169 Saladin served with another uncle named Shirkuh as second to the commander in chief of the Syrian army. Shirkuh died only two months after Saladin received his new position. Despite his humble position and due to the fact that he held little regard for the Fatimid ruler of Cairo, Saladin turned Egypt into an Ayyubid powerhouse. He used many Kurds in important positions in his army and in no time he had improved the Egyptian economy and trained an army ready to take on the Frankish Crusaders.
In just two years Saladin suppressed the rulers for which he had little regard and thus united Egypt with the Abbasid Caliphate. When Nur ed-Din died in 1174, Saladin began his expansion of territories. In just twelve years he had Damascus, Syria, Alleppo, Mawsil and Iraq. After a three-month battle he captured Jerusalem in 1187 at theBattle of Hattin.
In February of 1193 Saladin rode out to meet some pilgrims returning from Mecca. That evening he became bed ridden due to pain and fever and in a number of days fell into a comma from which he never returned. Saladin died March 3rd 1193 at the age of 55.
According to The French Writer Rene Grousse:
"It is equally true that his generosity, his piety, devoid of fanaticism, that flower of liberality and courtesy which had been the model of our old chroniclers, won him no less popularity in Frankish Syria than in the lands of Islam"
Renee Grousse
The Epic of the Crusades
Orion Press 1970
Translated from the French by Noel Lindsay
So this guy is akin to old Osama? apparently some of his contemporaries would disagree.
Wattuyusay, Neocon's Fight?
"I don't see how this can be true"
The 1995 Oslo accords provided for [Israel to transfer to the PA]15,000 automatic rifles and sidearms, plus a few hundred heavy machine guns, for Palestinian police and security forces, yet there could be 30,000 or more weapons in the Palestinian community.
Well, there are conventional nuclear weapons, cluster bombs, napalm, FAE bombs, carpet bombing, and various other ways to make war. This war is not of Israeli choosing, and the desire for genocide is all on the Arab side.
So before you get in a huff about genocide examine yourself. How do you want the Palestinians to go, one at a time as exploding children, or all at once in a war of their choosing. For, unless they suddenly learn to live with the other people on this planet, they must go. Ask Robert Kennedy of what he thought of Palestinians, as one killed him.
"Palestinians" are not a people, they are a political movement that has killed far more innocent Arabs and other foreigners to Israel than Jews. To think that they will stop killing because they run out of Jews is pretting stupid. Like all evil men, they will stop killing when they die. I suggest we get that accomplished sooner rather than later.
All your quoting of Warcraft II and orcs, as well as figures you cite, show absolutely clear that you've no relationship with mythology whatsoever, and indeed with any education worth to be mentioned.
If you're of age accepted usually as mature, but are just retarded, I offer you my condolence.
If you're a kid masturbating over the keyboard when mom and dad have their night out, return to your computer games, don't waste our time.
I'll grant that the desire for genociding the other side is mostly on the Arab Islamist side. But look at post #22 for an example of why Israel banned the lunatic fundamentalist Kach party. Most Isrealis see the irony in advocating Palli genocide, but not all. And none of the Neocons' herds of red heifer cultist abandonment theology lunatics have much of a threshold for detecting hyprocrisy much less irony.
How silly of me; of course only Zionists are allowed to huffily play the genocide card. I must have forgotten. :^)
In case you aren't just baiting me, and don't realize how Hitler-esqe your words are, let me show you the striking parallels. It took 10 seconds to find on google...
Hitler's speech to the Reichstag of January 30, 1939:
Europe [Israel] will not have peace until the Jewish [Pallie] question has been disposed of. The world has sufficient capacity for settlement, but we must finally break away from the notion that a certain percentage of the Jewish [Muslim] people are intended, by our dear God [Allah], to be the parasitic beneficiary of the body, and of the productive work, of other peoples. Jewry [Islam] must adapt itself to respectable constructive work [unless they suddenly learn to live with the other people on this planet], as other peoples do, or it will sooner or later succumb to a crisis of unimaginable proportions. If the international finance-Jewry [rich Saudis] inside and outside Europe [Arabia] should succeed in plunging the nations into a world war yet again, then the outcome will not be the victory of Jewry [Palistinians], but rather the annihilation of the Jewish [Arab] race in Europe [the Mid-East]!
Were you born stupid, or did you work really hard to get there? What say you, newbie?
It's time to put this often used, silly, strawman argument to bed.
1. The Palistine has always been inhabited by many tribes.
2. Some of the tribes are Semetic. Some Semetic tribes are Jewish, some Arab.
3. Also a lot of Bedoin and Druze and Christians and Zoroastrians, etc, etc.
4. How stupid of you it is to expect all different, non-Jewish peoples residing in the Palistine to consider themselves "a people!"
5. "Palistinian" is therefore describing a person's geographic, not nationalistic, origin.
6. Zionism is a nationalist political movement. Any political aspect of "palistinianism" is a reaction to Zionism.
7. Atzlan is a separatist political movement of Hispanic people. "Californians" are people that live in California. "Zionism" describes the political like Atzlan, "Palistinian" is geographical like Californian. If the UN told Californians to give Atzlan (perhaps as Reparations for the Indian Holocaust), one's status as Californian would not supervene on thier reaction. Because only some Californians are Atzlanists or anti-Atzlanists.
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