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To: Paleo Conservative; dighton; JediGirl; Stavka2; ECM; Utmost Certainty; Free_at_last_-2001; GWELO; ..
I would welcome your comments on the articles I have posted, and your answers to my request. Thank you in advance.
2 posted on 08/11/2002 10:29:19 AM PDT by David Hunter
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To: David Hunter
Sounds like Tone is going 'wobbly' on the Iraq issue. This type of article in your press proves there is growing reluctance on the part of Britain to expand the WOT to include Iraq.
3 posted on 08/11/2002 11:08:15 AM PDT by Notforprophet
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To: David Hunter; Orual; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Tennessee_Bob
Not ready to comment, but I'll ping some others who might. Your request and disclaimer brought a smile to my face:

I am an Englishman who beleives that Saddam Hussein must be ejected from power before he obtains a nuclear capability. ... Please confine yourselves to making constructive comments and not just generic anglophobic remarks. I am not a socialist or a liberal, my teeth are in perfect condition and my grandparents despised Neville Chamberlain.

4 posted on 08/11/2002 11:34:12 AM PDT by dighton
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To: David Hunter
He said: "Tony Blair seems to be like George Bush's puppet. We should only go to war if there is a genuine threat against us."

thanks for asking for my opinion. i picked this phrase to highlight that the liberal media in the uk is as bad as the liberal media in the us. when tony does as the media wants, he is probably viewed as a man of iron. but when the media disagrees, do everything to spread a derogatory view of the man and situation. i might add, that although i find tony blair to be very personable and a great communicator, his views are often not aligned with mine. nonetheless, he does (unlike our ex-pres) seem to be a man of honor and is standing tall on this issue. i know that he will do what he views as the right thing and not be dogged by polls.

sadam has to go. he is a terrorist. he has paid large sums of money to suicide bombers (he has admitted to this). he and his regime supported at least one of the 911 (or is it 119 in the uk?) bombers -- mohammad atta. he has weapons of mass destruction and he has used them on people living within the borders of iraq. israel, with perhaps the greatest intelligence in the world, bombed a nuclear reactor because they had information that the reactor's primary function was to furnish the radioactive isotopes for a nuclear bomb.

saddam is desparately trying to get a nuclear bomb. defectors from the project have so stated. dick cheney has gone on record as stating he believe saddam will have them in 3 years.

this man has no respect for international law. he has not allowed weapons inspectors into his country for many years as dictated as part of the peace plan with the united nations. this issue alone is, per international law, reason to go to war with iraq. yet, as a peace loving western world, we look for every reason to not go to war.

the next question we have to ask, is, "if saddam has wmd, will he use them?" the answer is "of course." he will do anything to save his own hide. during the gulf war, when america and the united nations were liberating kuwait, he lobbed scud missiles at israel. there was strategic reason to do this to win the war, other than to hope that israel would retaliate and bring on an islam/arab war against the united nations. his past actions strongly dictate that he will use wmd in an instant.

given all of this, should the western world, led by the united states and the uk, go to war with iraq? a resounding yes is the only answer i can give. i learned a long time ago that the only way to stop the bully on the playground is to challenge him when he strikes. bullies back down. they get their joy from terrorizing their prey. history teaches us the same lesson: hitler and czechoslovakia, germany and the balkans, stalin and the eastern block, poland and their resistance to the soviet union. even those damn colonies across the pond in 1776 were the result of finally saying we are not going to take it any longer (sorry about the cheap shot, chap!)

so why are we not at war right now with iraq and why does it appear that the united states is not united for a war? (you ask). good question! bush is slow to anger and quick to respond when he must -- just like the uk in the 17th and 18th centuries when its empire was being threatened and its corporate profits were being ripped off. bush is trying to gain a coalition with arab/islamic nations. he is using this battle of words as a means of determine who is for us and who is against us. woe be it to those who is against us. he is also looking for every possible way to overthrow saddam while minimizing bloodshed. while we are the greatest power on earth, we, like the uk, do not wish to use it unless absolutely possible. we value human life.

contrary to what you might read in the papers, most of the united states is united for the war. the democrats are scared for their political life. if bush gives the go ahead to fight a war, the republicans will win in 2002 and 2004. the democrats are doing everything they can to question bush in public and cast doubts on the american people. most americans do not buy this crap spewed by the mainstream socialistic press. remember who is behind the democratic propaganda: carville, clinton and mccauliffe -- perhaps the 3 biggest stooges in the us right now. clinton is trying to save his legacy and if bush beats terrorism, or even TRIES to beat terrorism, he will be a hero compared to the feeble attempts trying to defend the country.

democratic comments about trying to find a different way of dealing with saddam ring hollow. we have been trying for 8 years under clinton and the situation has gotten worse. the democrats are trying to scare america into not fighting by saying that many western folks will be killed. i did not see the iraqis fight a war 'to the death' 10 years ago when they had 3 times their current capabilities -- and most will give up shortly after the first few salvos are fired. western lives will be lost, but more will be lost if we do not stop saddam before he has weapons of mass destruction.

we have a case to go after him based on his previous behaviours. the fact that he is a threat and will be a major threat within 3 years says we must proactively stop this man.

11 posted on 08/13/2002 4:18:45 PM PDT by mlocher
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