Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Vigilante neighbors in court for branding molester
Detroit Free Press ^ | 08/06/02 | L.L. BRASIER

Posted on 08/06/2002 2:24:10 PM PDT by msuMD

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:12:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Three Pontiac men took the law -- and a blistering hot metal spatula -- into their hands when they learned a neighbor had been regularly sodomizing his 7- and 10-year-old nephews.

Two of the men held down the uncle while the third pressed the smoking spatula on his genitals, buttocks, stomach and legs. They paused only long enough to reheat the spatula on the kitchen stove for repeated branding before tossing the uncle out onto the sidewalk, breaking his arm.


(Excerpt) Read more at freep.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: michigan; molester; vigilante

1 posted on 08/06/2002 2:24:10 PM PDT by msuMD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: msuMD
Three Pontiac men took the law -- and a blistering hot metal spatula -- into their hands when they learned a neighbor had been regularly sodomizing his 7- and 10-year-old nephews.

Sounds like a plan to me...

Anybody know where that SOB Avila is being held?

2 posted on 08/06/2002 2:26:47 PM PDT by mhking
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: msuMD
The molester is still alive? Next time, use a bigger spatula.
3 posted on 08/06/2002 2:29:10 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mhking
The local burn unit??
4 posted on 08/06/2002 2:30:02 PM PDT by tracer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: msuMD
"That is not a good thing, because often the punishment is much harsher, more brutal, than what is appropriate," Fox said. "That's why we have laws, a system, to handle crime and punishment."

For repeatedly sodomizing a 7 and 10 year old? I would say the perv got off easy. Professor Fox and others like him who think this is too harsh a punishment are a big part of why people engage in vigilantism. When people feel they don't get justice from the courts, they deal it out themselves.

5 posted on 08/06/2002 2:31:19 PM PDT by Hugin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tracer
burn unit??

Sounds as if he got a "burned unit"....

6 posted on 08/06/2002 2:40:08 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: msuMD
Fox said he has seen a shift toward more vigilante activity in the last 10 years as people grow increasingly disenchanted with a criminal justice system they think does not work.

Well DUH!!--how long are we supposed to sit by and watch our children be molested and murdered, while the perps go free to repeat their crimes?

Inappropiate punishment--I don't think so!! The scars these perverts leave on their victims are far deeper than anything they might suffer.
7 posted on 08/06/2002 2:43:23 PM PDT by scholar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: msuMD
Already posted here.
Vigilante neighbors in court for branding molester
8 posted on 08/06/2002 2:48:46 PM PDT by Just another Joe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: msuMD
I wonder why these guys pled guilty. It's hard to imagine a jury would have convicted them.

These prosecutors seem not to have heard of prosecutorial discretion. What the vigilantes did may have been against the law, but the prosecutors were not obliged to prosecute them. I wonder if this D.A. is an elected official. If so, he may just have created an election issue against himself.

9 posted on 08/06/2002 2:51:16 PM PDT by aristeides
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: msuMD
But the story left out what race these people are. How can we properly evaluate the actions of these men without knowing the color of their skin?







that was sarcasm, for those who couldn't tell
10 posted on 08/06/2002 2:51:55 PM PDT by drjimmy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: msuMD
"They turn them into folk heros, even when what they've done is not heroic."

Then you'd f**king hate to see what I'd do...

11 posted on 08/06/2002 3:08:44 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: msuMD
They should have branded a large capital "M" on both sides of his face. That way everyone in prison will know that this scum is a child molester.

12 posted on 08/06/2002 3:26:32 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: msuMD
"Williams, who admitted throwing Gibson on the sidewalk, pleaded guilty to aggravated assault. Already serving a life sentence for murder in an unrelated case, Williams, 21, faces a year in prison for the assault."


How did Williams manage to do this while he was serving a life sentence for murder?
13 posted on 08/06/2002 4:05:19 PM PDT by tdscpa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: msuMD
""That is not a good thing, because often the punishment is much harsher, more brutal, than what is appropriate," Fox said. "That's why we have laws, a system, to handle crime and punishment."
"

I think their brand of justice was perfectly appropriate - it's too bad the criminal justice system won't mead out that sort of punishment.
14 posted on 08/06/2002 4:43:44 PM PDT by TheBattman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aristeides
I agree, although I would expect that the court system would have done everything in its power to ensure that this never made it to a jury. For example, they could have empaneled a jury which heard the case, but the judge would take the case from the jury after the defense rested. Or they might have found an exception to the right to a jury trial. I can't imagine a jury not being at least unable to reach a verdict (if not finding not guilty) on these charges. But then I don't even play a criminal attorney on TV.
15 posted on 08/06/2002 6:22:31 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: All

On NOW at RadioFR!

Tonight The Shrew will host William S. Lind of the Free Congress Foundation on Radio Free Republic! Tune in to hear one of the foremost military writers discuss the article he has co-written with Paul Weyrich!

Click HERE to listen LIVE while you FReep!

Click HERE to chat in the RadioFR chat room!


16 posted on 08/06/2002 6:22:51 PM PDT by Bob J
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: msuMD
In June 2001, Gibson, 38, pleaded guilty to two counts of second-degree criminal sexual conduct for the attacks on his nephews and was ordered to serve an 8- to 40-year prison term.

8-40 years? What the hell kind of sentence is that?

If anyone ever tried to molest my son or daughter they will quietly disappear from the face of the earth.

17 posted on 08/06/2002 6:27:52 PM PDT by rockprof
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rockprof
8-40 years? What the hell kind of sentence is that?

Probably less than you'd get for having the wrong kind of firearm, or a couple of rounds of the wrong kind of ammunition or other things that go bang, despite never having hurt a soul with it.

18 posted on 08/06/2002 7:46:19 PM PDT by El Gato
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson