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To: BJungNan
I suppose you have to accept my premise that he was run out of office to accept my position. Maybe you don't see it that way.

Well, if I can be honest, although I'm an Ohian, he wasn't my congresscritter so I didn't pay enough attention to what was going on in his life to have an informed opinion on the subject. To me he was always just a colorful, amusing dweeb that embarrassed the Democrats and gave the rest of us an occasional laugh. The only other thing I know about him was that he was convicted of serious public corruption and that tends to speak for itself.

If that is the case, may I ask, why is it that others whose crimes were much worse still sit in the "honorable" house?

Honor among thieves perhaps? God knows, there are certainly enough scoundrels in that bunch, I grant you.

I watched the hearings on TV the day it all went down for Big Jim, and I found the voting dynamics very ummmm... interesting. The final House vote to expel him was almost unanimous with Gary Condit being the sole dissenting vote.

However, there was a vote taken before the final one. It was to resolve the issue of postponement of the vote. Some argued that it was a "rush to judgement", and it would have been prudent and otherwise harmless to delay the vote until after the summer recess, during which time further facts might come forward that had bearing on the case.

I don't remember the exact vote count, but the Democrats voted against delay almost to the last representative, they obviously wanted him out of there RIGHT NOW, whereas at least a significant minority of Republicans were willing to give Trafficant this one last possible benefit fit of a doubt.

Politics, go figger...

23 posted on 08/06/2002 9:43:06 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Kenton
To me he was always just a colorful, amusing dweeb that embarrassed the Democrats and gave the rest of us an occasional laugh.

I really don't think your original comments are any more valid than what you write above. Basically, what you are saying is you have not been paying attention but you get on here and rail against Traficant.

If you are ever audited by the IRS and find that the IRS is now required to provide the burden of proof rather than you, will will appreciate what the "amusing dweeb" was able to accomplish for you and the rest of the nation.

As for the laugh you used to get out of Traficant, the laugh is now on you. The man that ruffled a bunch of feathers in Washington, including the feathers of those that want to maintain an onerous IRS, is now in jail and out of Congress.

Your's wasn't the last laugh.

35 posted on 08/06/2002 3:13:56 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Kenton
I don't remember the exact vote count, but the Democrats voted against delay almost to the last representative, they obviously wanted him out of there RIGHT NOW, whereas at least a significant minority of Republicans were willing to give Trafficant this one last possible benefit fit of a doubt.

Politics, go figger...

Go figure nothing. That is pure BS. Gee, I was going to delay a vote to stone you to death but seeing as how everyone has voted to decide today, well, let me toss in this boulder and konk you on the head.

Please spare me this nonsense.

Make no mistake, the Republicans wanted him out of office, every last one of them. Just exactly as the final vote showed.

36 posted on 08/06/2002 3:20:48 PM PDT by BJungNan
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