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FWIW, some neo-pagan revisionists claim that Druids were peaceful and one with nature. That Ceaser lied about Druid human sacrifices to disparage his enemies.

As you may know, the Libertarians are running a practicing Druid for governor of California this year.

But you're right, all religions have killed in the name of their faith. That's why I keep using the term Judeao-Christian-Islamic. They share common violent roots, as well as common good ideas.

And yes, pagans too have commited savage deeds. Just yesterday I heard on the Art Bell Show how Native Americans would offer rituals of gratitude to the animals they killed before eating them, and how Native Americans believed that the whale was the "grandfather of the ocean," a "brother" who was given domain over the waters just as men were given domain over the earth.

I'm so tired of liberals ooooh and aaaahing over "spiritual peace-loving Native Americans," just as I'm tired of Jews and Christians and Muslims each thinking their religion is somehow better than the others. Tired of smug atheists too.

I guess I just don't like people, :-)

Maybe modern day Druids have their own form of holocaust denial. It's hard to say since so little evidence exisits concerning the Druids and their beliefs. I can't help but notice that this little fact has not kept them from making an "ancient" religion out of whole cloth. I would hazard to guess that Roman historians were closer to the truth than todays Druids would like to believe. That whole time in history was brutal across the board so it seems the idea that Druids practiced some very nasty repression isn't really that far fetched.

I know a lot of New Agers and I find them just as intolerant as every other religion can tend to be. Their dislike of Chrisitans by the New Age movement is visceral. Of course if I had Christians telling me I was going to hell all the time it would tend to get my back up too. They go on and on about how Christians wiped out the "old religion". That is true they did but they overlook the the good things that Judeo-Christian thought brought to the modern world. Things like hospitals,public education, the end of slavery in the west, the sufferage of women etc. All these ideas had their start within the church. The Christian belief that everyone is equal in the eyes of God is something the New Age borrows from freely but rarely gives credit to the original source for. Although I do not agree with those who say the US is a Chrisitan country I will say that without it we would not have our wonderful constitution The contributions of Judeao-Christianity are mind boggling in their scope. If one weighs the contributions of the New Age to it there is no contest about who has been of greater benefit to humanity.Chrisitan ideals are the underpinning of so much of our modern day beliefs we take it for granted and just assume the world was always that way.

Althugh there are some common ideas betweeen Judism, Christianity and Islam, Islam has taken a different turn in the road totally. They have failed to "grow up" like the Jews and Chistians have. They still practice slavery, treat women like dirt and kill heretics. They have a world view that is totally incompatable with most everything we hold dear. If they stayed home and practiced that crap nooe would have a problem with it. It's when export it in that oh so special way they have that we a forced to do something. Given time they will probably get over it since there is a small active element within their faith that can see these ideas are wrong. The problem for us is we may have to kill a lot of them before they settle down.

I wish I heard that Art Bell interview. I usually tape his show ever night on my Versa-Corder but I must have missed that one Like you sometimes I wonder if I just have a problem with humanity in general. Let's face it they can sure be pretty darn grating at times :) Please forgive all the typos, spelling errors and oversights in grammer. I'm mostly a lurker and hardly ever post.