Posted on 08/04/2002 8:00:41 AM PDT by Commie Basher
You're right, Berned. Overall, it's a good and great thing - to remind people of the ultimate 2nd coming of Christ - especially for those who have forgotten the wonderful meaning and essence of the first coming.
LOL!!!
Anyone reading the Left Behind series must keep one thing in mind....
It is a work of fiction which describes a reasonably realistic view of the way Biblical end-times prophecies could very well unfold. We must also keep in mind that Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins, the writers, are human.
Personally, the Left Behind series has helped strengthen my faith, while at the same time, encouraging me to further study the Bible.
For anyone interested in end-times prophecy-based fiction should also check out James BeauSeigneur's "Christ Clone Trillogy":
In His Image
Birth Of An Age
Acts Of God
Although written from a Christian perspective, this book also covers the roll that other "beliefs" play in the end times. This book series has a lot less of the feel-goods found in the Left Behind series.
Fr. Malachi Martin thought so as well.
The main reason I have supported Israel is because of the book "Exodus" by Leon Uris and the holocaust. Later I was exposed to Christian bible prophecy concerning the Jews and that made me want to back them all the more, naturally.
Of late I've had to ask myself if I am being totally objective to side unequivocally with the Jews. They aren't always in the right. Usually they are, but there have been incidents where they went too far imo, assuming you can get the whole truth from either side.
That's what the Bible clearly teaches, whether people like it or not. Jesus is the only way to God. Unbelievers, of any stripe, are always hostile to the gospel until their hearts are changed by the Holy Spirit. Christians are to relay this truth in humility and in love, but they must proclaim the truth, nonetheless. To do otherwise, is to disobey God.
Amen! Thank you, berned, and you have Freepmail!
Zola Levitt is a messianic Jew who has an informative web site. He has made many videos about Christians and Jews -- one of his points is that God has not finished his work with the Jewish nation. It is God's desire to save all who will accept Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour -- and in the end times many Jews will be saved.
All I saw was a picture. I guess if you'd like to see Arafat dead, you are a "radical Zionist."
From the time of the return of the first remnant after the Babylonian exile, sacred historians, prophets, apostles, and the Lord Himself, regarded the "Jews" whether in the land or in "Dispersion" as representatives of "all Israel," and the only people in line of the covenants and the promises which God made with the fathers...
are overreaching and simply do not hold water. His Biblical citations in defense of those and other positions are quite challengeable.
I thought leading people to the Lord was salvation, and that YOU were mixing end times speculation with salvation. Leading people to the Lord through end times fiction is backward. I doubt it happens, though people are often led into cults that way.
People are led to the Lord in all kinds of ways, some of them may even seem odd.
Question for you Valerie, what is your religious affiliation?
Yes, like hanging on a cross next to him...
The idea of burning heretics is not a Christian principle. I get so tired of hearing this idea repeated over and over. First off it happened a few hundred years ago and I think we can safely say that Chrisitan ideals have evolved somewhat since that time. If the burning of heretics is currently a big issue why I have not seen anyone burnt at the stake during my life time. God, knows there are enough heretics to justify a prye on every street corner. It is a sad chapter from Chrisitian history that really should be given a rest.
If killing people for not accepting your religious belief is an exuclusively Christian idea please explain to me why Druids bar-be-qued their heretics,or the Aztecs, the Romans for that matter. In fact one would be hard pressed to find a major world religion which has not done it at some point They were doing this well before Christianity came into being. I get sick to tearings listening to the new age people drivel on about the brutality of Chrisitanity when the Druids who they hold in high esteam did the same things. For some reason the blood on their hands dosen't count. I guess it's because they were kind to trees to they can pass the politically correct smell test.
Killing people who disagree with your religion has to do with crappy human behavior and nothing to do with Chrisitanity. The modern western world no longer tolerates this atrocious crime. The Muslim world does. We are living in the current world not the past. To argue that "well Christians did it hundreds of years ago so who are we to point fingers" is an attemmpt to inpart some sort of phoney guilt within Christians for believing in their faith. I for one have never owned a slave, killed an Indian, or burnt a heretic. I hazard to guess if you will not find many ,if any, American Christians who have.
When did I EVER say that the antichrsit would be the Pope??
I believe a future Pope will be THE FALSE PROPHET -- not the Antichrist.
Are you truly so ignorant of Scripture to not know the difference between the Antichrist and the False Prophet, and that they are two seperate persons?
It's wearying to converse with people like you, ada$tra, who read my posts but do not comprehend what they read. Then you want to put words in my mouth that I never said, because of YOUR ignorance of Bible basics.
I suggest you try to read Revelation for yourself, once through, before you post any more on things which you reveal to all who browse here that you are in complete ignorance of.
I love what you said there so I thought I'd post it again!
It is my firm belief that how you interpret the end times is in no way essential to salvation. I am a premillennialist like LaHaye, however it is not a required for salvation belief at all. Certainly it is not worth fighting over. The one thing we all know for sure is that NO ONE knows the time, place, or exactly how Revelation will play out.
I like the Left Behind books but a person can be a wonderful Christian and disagree with LaHaye's take on the end times. Even he would say so.
Essential beliefs are: Who God is--Creator, Holy, Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent....who man is--a sinner....who Christ is--God's Son, Redeemer, Savior, Holy....what faith means--not of ourselves, it is a free gift from God, not of works...
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