I think that the tap root can go a 'lil deeper here . Civility goes back to the home front and the upbringing , and I am hopeful that it is the parents who are the Dorian columns in this case .
Naive . Informed .
I often wonder why more people do not seem to approach this forum with the mindset of being open to learn more and at the same time , placing themselves in the position of being a teacher / mentor to others .
Granted , MurryMom is beyond salvage .. but imagine the potential army we could develope 2-3 5-10 years down the road .
The potential alone is inspiring !
Your optimism and faith in humanity is envied and appreciated.
I would like to see one instance of someone's mind being changed by any discussion on this (or any other) web site.
Peace.