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To: Tailgunner Joe
And what about that DAMN Neighborhood watch.. now thats intrusive and the epitomy of SPYING on your neighbor!!!! </sarcasm

The TIPS program is the SAME thing. People are FREAKING out about NOTHING. If I see strange activity, you can bet your sweet (or sour) A** I'm gonna report it! I could care less about someones hurt wittle feelings!!

Americans as a whole, are a lot more responsible than some would give them credit for. If someone was abusing the system and reporting falsely, that would be insane for a number of reasons!!
2 posted on 08/02/2002 2:21:56 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
What is the german word for "fatherland"???
I dislike the title, "Homeland Security" immensly.
Every time I hear it, I cringe.
I know some were opposed to dusting off the label "Civil Defense" because it had such a cold-war ring to it...but "homeland" has some weird hitler echo to it.
4 posted on 08/02/2002 2:54:29 PM PDT by two23
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
The sccary/wierd part about the TIPS program is that they intend to sign certain people up and 'train' them on what kind of 'suspicious' activity to report. You and I can still call 911, but these 'tipsters' would be specially trained, and would have a special conduit to submit thier reports.

Ever had a nosy neighbor or a rival that would stoop to the level of filing a report of 'suspicious' activity on you? Welcome to the new USA. Couple that with trigger happy jackboot thugs and no-knock entry and you see the tip of that iceberg.

The new Stazi, right here in our own beloved United States.
6 posted on 08/02/2002 3:23:36 PM PDT by GaltMeister
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
I agree that there is nothing to worry about when the government recruits and rewards informers. Castro implemented the TIPs program when he came to power in Cuba, and it seems to work well there too. Every neighborhood, work place, apartment building, school and church should have at least one government informant.

In fact we shouldn't stop there. Government schools should be training children to inform on their parents and relatives. The children can be especially effective in weeding out malcontents who think the government is too big or too powerful.

9 posted on 08/02/2002 3:33:47 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
How can you claim that? Are you sitting on your brain? I tell you what, name me one government program that has not expanded, or become abusive, just one.

They are talking about deputizing, telephone and cable repairmen, postmen, who ever else, plumbers? to look for "terrorists". This means new government jobs for some department, and more funding for that department, be it the FBI or Homeland Security, they love funding, they do everything in their power to make that funding grow. It is a complete and total violation of the 4th amendment for a deputy of the government to come in your home without a warrant.

Now how do they keep the edge on their deputies, who are going to lose interest and grow stale when they don't find alot of terrorists? Have them look for other information? Who owns a bible, who has a head of a deer on their wall, who gets political literature in their mail?

The FBI is already using that little prefered customer card hanging off your key chain to track suspecious purchases, and you want to tell us that TIPS is just a little neighborhood watch association?

39 posted on 08/02/2002 9:11:21 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
If I see strange activity, you can bet your sweet (or sour) A** I'm gonna report it! I could care less about someones hurt wittle feelings!!

Pssst, I got a hot tip for you. If you want to see some strange activity, look south towards the border.....

53 posted on 08/02/2002 10:59:42 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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