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To: Tomalak
LOL! So you think Somalia and today's Russia are good models for the world?

Sigh. No. Obviously you can try to have no real morals and no real state, but it will be anarchy.

Actually, there have been anarchies that had murder rates far lower than the United States. The punishments for murder were much greater as well.

If you choose the state, you get mega-government and very high taxes.

Not always. Modern Socialist times, I suppose.

If you choose morality, that is when you get a truly great country, like America in the 1800s, as you mentioned.

This is one of many possible routes.

As for the person who thought it a "truism" that sexual attraction to kids was not a moral issue, I just hope you don't work with children.

Why don't you read Szasz's article. Just because morality was not within the scope of a psychiatric article does not mean he does not have a strong moral position on the subject.

Its a pity the Catholic church doesn't have the common sense that Szasz has. I suppose they are too busy rambling on about morality.

36 posted on 08/01/2002 5:38:21 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: AdamSelene235
So you think Somalia and today's Russia are good models for the world?

Sigh. No.

Okay - so can you name a few countries where the state is small and the people are immoral that are worth living in then? I think every conservative and libertarian would agree that the best combination is a moral people plus a small state. But you can't have a small state without a people moral enough to manage without big government.

41 posted on 08/01/2002 5:45:59 PM PDT by Tomalak
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