[sourcery]

So morality surely reduces the need for a large state.

The point everyone misses is this: personal morality reduces the need for a large state, and a large state reduces the need for personal morality. Immorality breeds socialism/statism, and socialism/statism breeds immorality.

[Tomalak]

The point everyone misses is this: personal morality educes the need for a large state, and a large state reduces the need for personal morality. Immorality breeds socialism/statism, and socialism/statism breeds immorality.

Excellent point. I hadn't thought of it that way round.