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To: Carry_Okie
****Are you really so sure about that? Remember, environmental law is authorized by treaties which supercede Federal Statutes. All this is, is a way for Dasshole to look good to his constituents for the election while accomplishing exactly NOTHING that would PO his real clientele.****

"Daschle’s legislation was tucked inside the defense supplemental spending bill, which passed the House July 23rd. It exempts South Dakota from the National Forest Management Act and the National Environmental Policy Act, and makes his action not subject to judicial review by any US court, thus handcuffing the same environmental activists whom his party normally assists to insure that active forest management is thwarted. “More than 20 lawsuits, appeals or reviews are blocking timber projects to remove fuel from the Black Hills,” writes Audrey Hudson in the Times. Daschle’s move not only thwarts the environmentalists’ utopian “pristine” forest policies, but provides relief for both the woodlands and the state’s beleaguered forest products industry, whose workers have suffered layoffs and depression."

HERE

So....yes, I would say that Daschle got FOR HIS STATE exactly what is needed for the other nat'l forests.

Carry.......you earlier posted that:
When the USFS settles they pay the RICOnuts for their costs. Now lest you think that the Forest Service bureaucracy wants it any other way, remember that 40% of the USFS budget is for legal expenses. More is spent satisfying consent decrees or documenting cases.

Do you think the USFS SEEKS out lawsuits on which to spend that 40% of their budget? I think not. Isn't that a bit like saying that if I bring a frivilous lawsuit against you, it is YOUR fault? I think the USFS is as sick of these lawsuits as you and I are. And it is the courts that require the USFS to pay the legal fees of these enviro nuts.

I don't think I am understanding your point on this budget issue.

71 posted on 08/01/2002 12:02:40 PM PDT by justshe
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To: justshe
It exempts South Dakota from the National Forest Management Act and the National Environmental Policy Act, and makes his action not subject to judicial review by any US court,

Congress doesn't have this power. Besides the treaties that supercede this legislation, the 14th Amendment prohibits it. It will be struck down. Dasshole knows that.

Do you think the USFS SEEKS out lawsuits on which to spend that 40% of their budget?

Absolutely they do. It is so common now that they even have a name for this type of litigation: A Sweetheart Suit. Sometimes the consent decrees are written before the intitial filing!

You see, you still have this idea that the Forest Service is what it used to be twenty years ago staffed by trained foresters committed to a carreer of public service. I am sorry to report that the collusion between environmental NGOs and USFS personnel is nearly complete, especially at the top, where many of the Goron's people hired out of NGOs with "conservation biology" degrees have moved into management positions while Xlinton's political appointees have gone on to executive positions at the same NGOs. It is literally a revolving door. For lower echelon employees to go to work for an NGO is usually an upward career move. No. The destruction of Federal land use agencies by the Clintongs and the universities is nearly complete. Retirements will do the rest.

As for the agency funding imperative, realize that when the US government enters into a consent decree with an NGO that funding the terms is no longer subject to Congressional discretion because the US government lost the case. The agency can actually use losing these lawsuits as a way of increasing their budget. Those suits allow the agency peons to spend their days gathering evidence or doing their bogus "science" to save the environmint.

Really, it's that bad.

92 posted on 08/01/2002 3:20:28 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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