Thanks for the update. You are correct. I was talking about the "old Basilica" and I was totally unaware of the new one.
You have piqued my interest to go through my Mexico slides to see how many photos I have of the "old Basilica". I now have a great scanner and am starting the process of "digitizing" photos from Korea, Mexico, etc. - not to mention the photos of the kids.
The Virgen of Guadalupe began in MEDELLIN, Spain, and it was at HER monastery that the baby Hernan Cortez was baptized as an infant. It was later, in Mexico, bitten by a scorpion, that Cortez cried out to the VIRGEN OF GUADALUPE and was miraculously healed. It was one of the 15,000 Virgens of Spain that Cortez took 60 pounds of sterling silver and PRESENTED MEXICO and laid the lands he had discovered at the feet of a ceramic image with traces of Moorish blood, NOT Juan Diego. I've been to the ARCHIVES of Mexico 3times, and have YET to uncover a case where someone was brought in to the OFFICE OF THE HOLY INQUISTION for a pseudo appearance of the IMPERATRIZ, PATRONA, SENORA, REINA, ESPOSA DEL ESPIRITU SANTO, ....didn't the virgen Mary of Jesus say something about being a slave, a handmaiden? Juan Diego does have a full beard...Chichimecas don't have such. We've got some problems here. Twenty Two Mexicans on July 1st, 1995 visited the Shrine of Guadalupe in Extremadura, and we left the ashes of a burned image, and we declare that Mexico, where I LIVE, does not have any SENORAS, ONLY A SENOR...DE SENORES.... Even Guadalupe, Mother to harlots, thieves, drunks, and the list goes on, HER KNEE to will bow. So, party on folks...You have got yourself in a corner, and in the next year, this act of canonization will result in another 600,000 Catholics who wake up to the stupidity of this crap.
Juan Diego does have a full beard...Chichimecas don't have such
El Misterio de los ojos de la Virgen
"Busto humano" en el ojo derecho.
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Según varios estudiosos y hombres de ciencia que han inspeccionado la imagen se pueden ver reflejadas, en ambos ojos y en la ubicación precisa en que se reflejarían en un ojo humano vivo, algunas figuras que han sido extensivamente analizadas y parecen corresponder a la forma y tamaño de figuras humanas localizadas enfrente de la imagen. En 1929, Alfonso Marcué, quien era el fotógrafo oficial de la antigua Basílica de Guadalupe en la ciudad de México, descubrió lo que parecía una clara imagen de un hombre con barba reflejada en el ojo derecho de la Virgen. Al principio no podía dar crédito a lo que estaba viendo: cómo podía ser?, Un hombre con barba dentro de los ojos de la Virgen de Guadalupe?. Pero luego de varias inspecciones de sus fotografías en blanco y negro de la imagen ya no tuvo mas dudas y decidió que era tiempo de informar a las autoridades de la Basílica. Así lo hizo, y le fué indicado por estas que se guardara completo silencio sobre el descubrimiento, lo que Marcué cumplió al pie de la letra.
Mas de 20 años después, el 29 de mayo de 1951, el dibujante mexicano José Carlos Salinas Chávez, luego de examinar una buena fotografía de la cara de la imagen, redescubre la imagen de lo que parece ser un busto humano reflejado en el ojo derecho de la Virgen, y luego también en el ojo izquierdo.
"Detalle del busto humano".
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Desde entonces, mucha gente ha tenido la oportunidad de inspeccionar de cerca los ojos de la Virgen en la tilma, incluyendo mas de 20 médicos oftalmólogos.
El primero fue el prestigioso médico oftalmólogo mexicano Dr. Javier Torroella Bueno, el 27 de marzo de 1956. En lo que constituye el primer reporte emitido por un médico sobre los ojos de la imagen, él certifica la presencia del triple reflejo (Efecto de Samson-Purkinje) característico de todo ojo humano normal vivo y afirma que las imágenes resultantes se ubican exactamente donde deberían estar según el citado efecto, y también que la distorsión de las imágenes concuerda perfectamente con la curvatura de la córnea.
Ese mismo año otro oftalmólogo, el Dr. Rafael Torrija Lavoignet, examinó los ojos de la imagen ya con mas detenimiento y con la utilización de un oftalmoscopio. El Dr. Lavoignet reporta la aparente figura humana en las córneas de ambos ojos, con la ubicación y distorsión propias de un ojo humano normal, notando además una inexplicable apariencia "viva" de los ojos al ser examinados.
Varias otras inspecciones de los ojos han sido realizadas por médicos oftalmólogos luego de éstas iniciales. Con mayores o menores detalles todas concuerdan en general con las dos primeras aquí expuestas.
Según Dr. Tonsmann, de izquierda a derecha pueden verse "indio sentado", "obispo Zumárraga", "traductor", "Juan Diego mostrando la tilma" y abajo "grupo familiar".
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Una nueva y fascinante clase de estudio y análisis de los ojos comenzó en 1979, por el Dr. José Aste Tonsmann, un graduado de la Universidad de Cornell trabajando para IBM en procesamiento digital de imágenes, al digitalizar éste a altas resoluciónes una muy buena fotografía de la cara de la Virgen tomada directamente de la tilma original.
Luego de procesar las imágenes de los ojos por diversos métodos para eliminar "ruidos" y destacar detalles el Dr. Tonsmann realizó lo que serían incríbles descubrimientos: no solamente era claramente visible en ambos ojos el "busto humano", sino también por lo menos otras cuatro figuras humanas eran también visibles en ambos ojos.
El Dr. Aste Tonsmann publicó sus últimos estudios efectuados sobre los ojos en la tilma con completos detalles y fotografías. Quizás uno de los aspectos mas fascinantes de su trabajo es su opinión de que Nuestra Señora no solo nos dejara su imagen impresa como prueba de su aparición sino también ciertos mensajes que permanecieron escondidos en sus ojos para ser revelados cuando la tecnología permitiese descubrirlos y en el tiempo en que fueran mas necesarios.
Este sería el caso de la imagen de una familia presente en el centro de los ojos de la Virgen, en momentos en que la Familia se encuentra precisamente ante serios ataques en nuestros días. La imagen de varias figuras humanas que parecen constituir una familia, incluyendo varios niños y un bebé llevado en la espalda por su madre como se acostumbraba en el siglo 16, aparece en el centro de la pupila de la Virgen, como centro de su mirada, como se puede apreciar en esta excelente imagen del ojo derecho resaltando la familia, provista gentilmente por el Dr. Aste Tonsmann.
The image, imprinted on the tilma of a 16th-century peasant, led millions of indigenous Indians in Mexico to convert to the Catholic faith. Last week in Rome, results of research into the famed image were discussed by engineer José Aste Tonsmann of the Mexican Center of Guadalupan Studies during a conference at the Pontifical Athenaeum Regina Apostolorum.
For over 20 years, this graduate of environmental systems engineering of Cornell University has studied the image of the Virgin left on the rough maguey fiber fabric of Juan Diego’s tilma [cape G-fs]. What intrigued Tonsmann the most were the eyes of the Virgin.
Though the dimensions are microscopic, the iris and the pupils of the image’s eyes have imprinted on them a highly detailed picture of at least 13 people, Tonsmann said. The same people are present in both the left and right eyes, in different proportions, as would happen when human eyes reflect the objects before them.
Tonsmann says he believes the reflection transmitted by the eyes of the Virgin of Guadalupe is the scene on Dec. 9, 1531, during which Juan Diego showed his tilma, with the image, to Bishop Juan de Zumárraga and others present in the room.
In his research, Tonsmann used a digital process used by satellites and space probes in transmitting visual information.
He insists that the image "that has not been painted by human hand." As early as the 18th century, scientists showed that it was impossible to paint such an image in a fabric of that texture. The "ayate" fibers used by the Indians, in fact, deteriorated after 20 years. Yet, the image and the fabric it is imprinted on have lasted almost 470 years ago.
Tonsmann pointed out that Richard Kuhn, a Nobel Prize winner in chemistry, has found that the image did not have natural, animal or mineral colorings. Given that there were no synthetic colorings in 1531, the image is inexplicable.
In 1979, Americans Philip Callahan and Jody B. Smith studied the image with infrared rays and discovered to their surprise that there was no trace of paint and that the fabric had not been treated with any kind of technique.
"[How] it is possible to explain this image and its consistency in time without colors, on a fabric that has not been treated?" Tonsmann asked. "[How] is it possible that, despite the fact there is no paint, the colors maintain their luminosity and brilliance?"
Tonsmann, a Peruvian engineer, added, "Callahan and Smith showed how the image changes in color slightly according to the angle of viewing, a phenomenon that is known by the word iridescence, a technique that cannot be reproduced with human hands."
The scientist began his study in 1979. He magnified the iris of the Virgin’s eyes 2,500 times and, through mathematical and optical procedures, was able to identify all the people imprinted in the eyes.
The eyes reflect the witnesses of the Guadalupan miracle, the moment Juan Diego unfurled his tilma before the bishop, according to Tonsmann. In other words, the Virgin’s eyes have the reflection that would have been imprinted in the eyes of any person in her position. In the eyes, Tonsmann believes, it is possible to discern a seated Indian, who is looking up to the heavens; the profile of a balding, elderly man with a white beard, much like the portrait of Bishop Zumárraga, painted by Miguel Cabrera, to depict the miracle; and a younger man, in all probability interpreter Juan González.
Also present, Tonsmann believes, is an Indian, likely Juan Diego, of striking features, with a beard and mustache, who unfolds his own tilma before the bishop; a woman of dark complexion, possibly a Negro slave who was in the bishop’s service; and a man with Spanish features who looks on pensively, stroking his beard with his hand.
In a word, the Virgin’s eyes bear a kind of instant picture of what occurred at the moment the image was unveiled in front of the bishop, Tonsmann says.
Moreover, in the center of the pupils, on a much more reduced scale, another scene can be perceived, independent of the first, the scientist contends. It is that of an Indian family made up of a woman, a man and several children. In the right eye, other people who are standing appear behind the woman.
Tonsmann ventured to express why he believes the Virgin’s eyes have a "hidden" message for modern times, when technology is able to discover it. "This could be the case of the picture of the family in the center of the Virgin’s eye," he says, "at a time when the family is under serious attack in our modern world."
You don't need Juan Diego for the Islamic countries. You need St. Iago Matamotoros - St. James the Moor-killer.
If I remember correctly, the Catholic Church also persecuted Masons in Europe. There is enough blame to go around for both groups, but considering the greater specter of international Islam, it might be better for all concerned to forget excesses of the past.
