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Court rules state can bar Boy Scouts from charity list
Waterbury Republican - American ^ | July 30, 2002 | AP

Posted on 07/30/2002 5:23:54 PM PDT by Jim Scott

Court rules state can bar Boy Scouts from charity list

Tuesday, July 30, 2002

Associated Press

HARTFORD - Connecticut did not violate the rights of the Boy Scouts when it removed the group from a list of charities that state employees contribute to through a payroll deduction plan, a U.S. District Court judge has ruled.

The Connecticut State Employee Campaign Committee removed the Boy Scouts from its list in 2000. The move came after the state's Commission on Human Rights and Opportunities found that including the Boy Scouts on the list violated the state's anti-discrimination laws, because of the Scouts' policy that bars homosexuals from their organization.

The Irving, Texas-based Boy Scouts and one Connecticut Scouting council filed a federal discrimination lawsuit against the state, arguing that exclusion from the list was a First Amendment violation.

The lawsuit followed a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that found the Boy Scouts had a right to ban gay leaders.

In a decision dated July 22, U.S. District Court Judge Warren Eginton ruled in favor of the state.

"It has been readily acknowledged by all parties that the BSA may discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation," Eginton wrote. "But the issue before this Court is not a matter of the BSA's viewpoint on homosexuality, but of the BSA's compliance with the laws of the State of Connecticut."

State Comptroller Nancy Wyman, a named defendant in the lawsuit, said she was gratified by the court's decision.

"It just basically states that the state of Connecticut does not, and cannot by law, do business with organizations that discriminate," Wyman said.

George Davidson, a lawyer who represented the Boy Scouts, said the group would appeal.

"We remain confident that the Boy Scouts will be successful," Davidson said. They "have been singled out on the basis of viewpoint."

The campaign committee hires the United Way to collect the employee payroll deductions. But the state has the right to prevent the fund-raiser from giving the Boy Scouts any contributions not designated for a particular agency.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsalist; funding
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1 posted on 07/30/2002 5:23:54 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Jim Scott
The Supreme Court's decision was based on free association. Freedom of association is constitutionally protected.

Now we see a ruling that says Connecticut law supercedes the Constitutional rights of an organization. I would like to see the opinion in order to find out how they argued their way out of this one!

2 posted on 07/30/2002 5:32:28 PM PDT by nonliberal
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To: Jim Scott
Not a problem. State employees have the right to donate to the Scouts outside the state payroll deduction.

Maybe it's time that Connecticut state employees withdrew from the payroll deduction program and began to make their own decisions without government direction/intervention.

3 posted on 07/30/2002 5:42:03 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: nonliberal; Jim Scott
I would like to see the opinion in order to find out how they argued their way out of this one!

Just so, but it wouldn't make any difference in any case. The liberal class is not constrained by law donchya know? All's I gotta say is, here we go again. The BSA will continue the fight until they are beaten into the ground by queers, lesbians, etc. These people have no conception of "On my Honor".

FGS

4 posted on 07/30/2002 5:44:44 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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To: Jim Scott
Hey...queers...there is going to be a peter pulling contest at the Judges house tonight after you get the dishes done!

PAH

5 posted on 07/30/2002 6:09:44 PM PDT by lawdude
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To: *bsa_list
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6 posted on 07/30/2002 6:27:18 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: lawdude
NICE!
7 posted on 07/30/2002 6:37:04 PM PDT by Suzie_Cue
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To: Amerigomag
Well, now that they can't donate to the BSA, they can just divert the funds to the Big Brothers and Big Sisters organizations.

They don't have a problem with homosexuals spending "quality" time with youngsters.

8 posted on 07/30/2002 6:40:17 PM PDT by hot4teacher
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To: Jim Scott
Eginton, Warren William
Born 1924 in Brooklyn, NY

Federal Judicial Service:
U. S. District Court, District of Connecticut
Nominated by Jimmy Carter on June 5, 1979, to a new seat created by 92 Stat. 1629; Confirmed by the Senate on July 23, 1979, and received commission on July 24, 1979. Assumed senior status on August 1, 1992.

Education:
Princeton University, A.B., 1948

Yale Law School, LL.B., 1951

Professional Career:
U.S. Army Lieutenant, 1943-1946
U.S. Army Reserve Lieutenant Colonel, 1946-1973
Private practice, New York City, 1951-1953
Private practice, Stamford, Connecticut, 1953-1979

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Male

9 posted on 07/30/2002 6:49:07 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: an amused spectator
"Gender: Male"

Don'r bet on it!

10 posted on 07/30/2002 7:17:00 PM PDT by lawdude
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To: ForGod'sSake
I, for one, think judges should have to have read the Constitution in order to serve.
11 posted on 08/01/2002 7:44:48 PM PDT by nonliberal
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To: nonliberal
I, for one, think judges should have to have read the Constitution in order to serve.

Werksferme! We might want to add that to the swearing in ceremony: "Have you read the Constitution and understand it; and further are you making a committment to uphold our Constitution, or is this just so much lip service?"

FGS

12 posted on 08/01/2002 8:01:01 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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To: Jim Scott
You would think that the state might have learned a lesson from the trials and tribulations of the Catholic Church.
13 posted on 08/01/2002 8:08:06 PM PDT by TEXASPROUD
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To: ForGod'sSake; nonliberal
I, for one, think judges should have to have read the Constitution in order to serve.

I'm a Scouter. One of the requirements for 1st Class is for the boys to talk to a lawyer, teacher, elected official, etc., on their rights and obligations under the Constitution. So, I arranged for a State Representative to come by and talk to the boys. I did this via contacting someone in said Rep's office.

So, the Rep shows up. Asks me exactly what the requirement is. I had faxed it over, but I reviewed it. The response? "Oh, I'm not that big an expert on the Constitution." Well, they're 12 year olds. You don't have to go into depth, just the basics. "I don't know that much about it."

I couldn't believe that an elected official, whose job it is to make law, couldn't explain the basics of the Constitution to a bunch of kids. The results of her efforts have to be in compliance with the Constitution or it'll get repealed. You'd think they'd know the basics. Ahh....... A Reflublican, too.

14 posted on 08/02/2002 7:53:43 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Amerigomag
bttt
15 posted on 08/02/2002 7:55:31 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: RonF
What is even more startling is that the congressman got elected in the first place.
16 posted on 08/02/2002 6:39:35 PM PDT by nonliberal
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To: RonF
A Reflublican, too.

Cute. Sounds like one slipped in under the fence when no one was looking. A Pubbie no less. Whaddaya wanna bet she did a little studying that evening? Some good may have come from the encounter.

The results of her efforts have to be in compliance with the Constitution or it'll get repealed

Would that it were so. It SHOULD get repealed. Our Constitution has been all but gutted over the last 40 -50 years. Maybe some examples of unconstitutional laws(take your pick) would be a good starting point for your boys. But on second thought they would want to know how that can happen; disillusionment might set in at too early an age....

I do admire your efforts at trying to bring along some potential patriots.

FGS

17 posted on 08/03/2002 12:01:00 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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To: ForGod'sSake; nonliberal
The GOP in Illinois is in a sad state of affairs. The State Chair, also a State Senator, had to resign the former position because of a Federal indictment over using state employees on state time to work on his campaign. The "Safe Roads" scandal has swept up numerous party functionaries and looks to go all the way to the sitting Governor. It took a month to find someone to take the State Chair position; prominent Reflub's declined, and one that the party wanted was rejected by the sitting U.S. Reflub Senator because the person was not pro-life and anti-O'Hare expansion. They finally signed up a guy I never heard of.

There's probably a lot of elected officials like her in this state. The legislative leaders on both sides have managed to tie up their colleagues by controlling the reelection funds; you vote the way that the majority or minority leaders say, or else you don't get funded and get bounced out. Actual skill in your job is secondary. The corruption that this kind of power invites is eating up the GOP. It will probably get the other side of the aisle in due course, but not in this election cycle.
18 posted on 08/03/2002 6:39:35 AM PDT by RonF
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To: ForGod'sSake
"I do admire your efforts at trying to bring along some potential patriots."

Thanks. Teaching the kids camping, etc., is all well and good, and I enjoy it. But I also enjoy teaching the kids something about duty, honor, and country. I never served in the military; perhaps I was being saved for this.

19 posted on 08/03/2002 6:40:48 AM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF
Sounds a lot like the Iowa GOP. We have a candidate for Senate (RINO Greg Ganske) who won by push-polling and because his supporters pulled strings with conservative organizations.

Because of this, the real conservatives are demoralized and are planning on not voting for the Senate race. The base is unenthused with their prospects.

Plus, Iowa has a budget crisis. The Republicrats control BOTH houses of the State Legislature and spent every dime that the Democratic Governor wanted.

20 posted on 08/03/2002 4:32:46 PM PDT by nonliberal
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