30-mile fire front menaces southwest Oregon towns

Oregon Live ^ | 7/30/02 | Beth Quinn

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"Former Mayor Bud Clark..."

ROFLOL...no, I don't think I have. I'da remembered it.

[EBUCK]

“We need a balance of good, solid, sound management."

Management being the operative word here.

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[EBUCK]

No joke, that really is former Portland mayor Bud Clark.

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[Grampa Dave]

Don't forget how much is owned by the state, the counties, cities and then the federal government. However, that amount is never enough for the Green Jihadists.

In the West, one of the agendas of the Green Jihadists is for more property to be owned/controlled by some governmental agency, then outfits like TNC to own basically what is left. Then, the rest of us can herded and crowded into the Goron voting zones. A family of four can share a used bike, there would be a one bedroom dorm room for a family of 4, and you will share a bath area and cooking area with thousand other soul less creatures. Each dorm room would have a 25 watt bulb with one hour of light each morning and 30 minutes each night.

Before anyone who lives in the country laughs, ask yourself a couple of questions. Could you live in the country if you could not get homeowner's insurance on your home? Would a mortgage company issue you a mortgage if you couldn't get insurance on your rural home?

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"I wonder if the road was in disrepair due to restrictions on road building/maintenance in protected lands"

As far as I know, most fire access roads in the West are in disrepair, due to the antics of organizations like Wildfire.org Please to not take their version of the "facts" at face value. Not only are the facts wrong, because most of those burnt out areas hadn't seen a chainsaw in a couple of decades, their access roads were in disrepair. They have a link to the NIFC, I guess to make them sound legit...of course, they cite Clintonista Forestry Department statistics as "proof". Also, please note the EMAIL addy at the bottom of the page.

[EBUCK]

Would a mortgage company issue you a mortgage if you couldn't get insurance on your rural home?

Good point. Not a one.

I think that the fed ownes a majority of Oregon. At least judging by the colors they seem to. That the rest is owned by local authorities sets better with me than the acrage owned by the distant IFG.

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[EBUCK]

I fired off an E-Mail that began with ...

"I suppose you're going to try to tell me that removal of accumulated ground fuel will do nothing to lessen the severity or range of wildfires..."

I ranted a bit, raved a bit then offered to sell them a sticker.

We'll see what happens..

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"No joke, that really is former Portland mayor Bud Clark."

LOL...GEEEZ...they grow 'em weird in Portland, don't they?

Yes, management IS the operative word. That is what we hope to bring back, but it's a real uphill battle. Speaking of management, that Wildfireinfo.org website got a "Fah - Que" (sp?) gram from me...mentioning the need for timber management. Tree farming, we call it, but the environazis REALLY go ballistic when you say THAT.

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"I ranted a bit, raved a bit then offered to sell them a sticker"

ROFLOL (in appreciation) that is PRICELESS!

[EBUCK]

Yah, it's not very often that I have trouble typing because I'm laughing so hard at what I'm about to do. Fortunately, my time in the military prepared me for such times when hypocrisy, duty and humor clash.

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[EBUCK]

Tree farming is a curse word. We should PC it up a bit....

Perhaps "Culling the herd" would suit them better...

Eco-Caption.."Psychopathic Youth!"

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"Eco-Caption..'Psychopathic Youth!' "

Great pic, bad caption. It'll make the environazis want to ban axes and hatches (if they haven't tried already)

[ffrancone]

Apparently some insurance companies in fire hit and potential fire areas are refusing to issue new policies to home owners in Colorado.

I had not heard this. Although it is completely expected. Of course, the result of this is that homes in these areas will be sold at a huge loss, if at all. Why? Without insurance, who will be able to get mortgage financing.

Congrats greens, you have burned 'em out, just like you intended.

[EBUCK]

You see all that tree "flesh" flying around? Gotta love it..

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Now HERE'S a photo of a guy with an axe that I like...oh...and I meant "hatchet", not whatever I wrote earlier

DON RYAN/AP PhotoFirefighter Felix Hernando approaches smoking embers as he works to mop up a section of the Cache Mountain Fire near Sisters, Ore., Monday, July 29, 2002. The fire destroyed two homes at nearby Black Butte Ranch on Monday, but was much calmer Monday.

[Grampa Dave]

One our freepers who was assigned to fight the recent fires in Colorado said that insurance companies were refusing to issue new policies to the homeowners whose homes weren't burnt.

The elite enviralists set around with ACLU type lawyers and dream up agendas that result in actions like no home owner insurance in rural/forested areas. That starts immediate rural cleansing and sell offs to TNC and other enviral non profits.

[Grampa Dave]

Re that road. I stopped using that road six years ago. It had gotten very scary then. I can imagine what it is like now. It is not really a fire road, but an old logging road that led to this remote camping/hunting/fishing area above the Klamath River.

As part of the Clinton/Gore green agenda, you make sure that no matching funds get out to repair these roads. In a few years, they become death traps, and then they get closed. Then the roadless agendas of the Green Jihadists win in another area.

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"You see all that tree "flesh" flying around? Gotta love it."

LOL...yes, I can.

How about this for a caption: High school senior breaks under the stress when told he must write a report, worth 9/10 of his grade, called : '9,000 Things We Need to Do In Order to Save Our Forests' "

[PoisedWoman]

Breaks my heart. I love that Smith River canyon and the area around Gasquet in NoCal near Oregon border. And I have a friend with 80 forested acres beyond Cave Junction, OR, in Wilderville. He's an enviro whacko and watched with disgust as neighbors cleared some trees off their property. He won't touch one of his..hope he doesn't have to pay the price for his dedicated stupidity. He rented a house on his property to fellow with the fire service who begged him to thin out and clean up his land, but he couldn't countenance the idea. The area is full of enviro whackos. Too sad.

[PoisedWoman]

All who lose their homes in this should sue Sierra Club and the greenies up the wazoo..

One would think. But some whose homes are burning are greenies and sierra club members....see my post #79. I'm sure they're thrilled to sacrifice their homes, livestock, lands to cleansing fires.