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China Becomes US Second Biggest Bondholder
The People's Daily (CCP News) ^ | 7/29/02

Posted on 07/29/2002 7:41:35 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State

China Becomes US Second Biggest Bondholder

China has risen from its 4th place to become the second biggest bondholder claiming US$82 billion worth securities in the US. Japan still with US$317.3 billion securities on hand stays atop.

The UK comes third with a sum of US$49.4 billion. Hong Kong takes the 6th place and China's Taiwan Province 9th alongside the others as known from US official data lately released.



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To: Enemy Of The State
TRADE DEFICIT: Formally termed a balance of trade deficit, a condition in which a nation's imports are greater than exports. In other words, a country is buying more stuff for foreigners than foreigners are buying from domestic producers. A trade deficit is usually thought to be bad for a country. For this reason, some countries seek to reduce their trade deficit by--
  1. establishing trade barriers on imports,
  2. reducing the exchange rate (termed devaluation) such that exports are less expensive and imports more expensive, or
  3. invading foreign countries with sizable armies.

 U.S. Trade with China 
(billion dollars)
Year
1991
1992
1993
1994
1995
1996
1997
1998
1999
2000
U.S. Imports
19.0
25.7
31.5
38.8
45.5
51.5
62.6
71.2
81.8
100.1
U.S. Exports
6.3
7.4
8.8
9.3
11.7
12.0
12.9
14.2
13.1
16.3
Trade Deficit
12.7
18.3
22.7
29.5
33.8
39.5
49.7
56.9
68.7
83.8

WEALTH: The net ownership of material possessions and productive resources. In other words, the difference between physical and financial assets that you own and the liabilities that you owe. Wealth includes all of the tangible consumer stuff that you possess, like cars, houses, clothes, jewelry, etc.; any financial assets, like stocks, bonds, bank accounts, that you lay claim to; and your ownership of resources, including labor, capital, and natural resources. Of course, you must deduct any debts you owe.

VALUE ADDED: The increase in the value of a good at each stage of the production process. The value that's being increased is specifically the ability of a good to satisfy wants and needs either directly as a consumption good or indirectly as a capital good. A good that provides greater satisfaction has greater value. In essence, the whole purpose of production is to transform raw materials and natural resources that have relatively little value into goods and services that have greater value.

SERVICE: An activity that provides direct satisfaction of wants and needs without the production of a tangible product or good. Examples include information, entertainment, and education. This term good should be contrasted with the term good, which involves the satisfaction of wants and needs with tangible items. You're likely to see the plural combination of these two into a single phrase, "goods and services," to indicate the wide assortment of economic production from the economy's scarce resources.

Wealth is created only by engaging in value-added activities. By the same token, Service sector activities do not create wealth, they merely transfer, redistribute and eventually dissipate wealth as consumption. Thus, as value-added activities move offshore and the U.S. labor force shifts to the Service Sector, wealth is dissipated, not created. And the U.S. standard of living declines as a result.
22 posted on 07/29/2002 8:30:05 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Biker Scum
thanks for education! and I didn't think i could learn anything from Biker Scum.

But George Bush says that entrepreneurial class in China is on our side. I'm sure they will overthrow communists so that they can continue lending us money forever.

23 posted on 07/29/2002 8:53:14 PM PDT by Red Jones
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To: Biker Scum
Yeah but what about creative accounting?

"Creative accounting" is definitely wealth transferrence.
There is no "value-added", no wealth creation.

27 posted on 07/29/2002 9:14:20 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Enemy Of The State
If they want to be repaid, they should stop making stupid statements about nuking Los Angeles if the US tries to prevent the PRC from taking over Taiwan. For the Chinese to own so much US debt actually gives us quite a bit of leverage with them (pun intended). It is not like that of a third world country with respect to the World Bank or an ordinary person versus creditors; it is more analogous to the position that Donald Trump faced in the 90's versus his creditors. Donald Trump's creditors did not want to liquidate his assest, because they would have lost hundreds of millions of dollars.
28 posted on 07/29/2002 9:15:43 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Willie Green
Hahaha! Boy, you need to take a course in economics! So, let me get this straight, there is no value added from education? Tell me, what are a hundred factories worth without an education system? Answer: Nothing! Value is not a tangible object. It is an individual's set of preferences, of choices about having this rather than that. Anything can have value, including physical objects or services. The fact that something is tangible does not mean it has value. A sculpture may be very valuable to one person and worthless to another. And the same is true of a course on how to build a nuclear reactor. The idea that wealth is derived from physical objects is the same flawed Marxist reasoning that productivity is the result of muscle labor, and that intellectual endeavors are essentially worthless.
29 posted on 07/29/2002 9:16:47 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: billybudd
So, let me get this straight, there is no value added from education?

Correct.

Value is not a tangible object.

Correct. Wealth is, at its most fundamental level.

Services that have value result in a transferrence of wealth.
However they do not ADD value, hence, they do not create wealth.

31 posted on 07/29/2002 9:27:09 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: free from tyranny
The original source of this news is the ChiComs; hence their delusional dreams of getting Taiwan back.

Jiang ought to not be looking ANYWHERE <VBG> (I don't want the ChiComs forming up and marching in any direction except to the unmarked grave of history's discarded ideas).

32 posted on 07/29/2002 9:30:03 PM PDT by steveegg
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To: Biker Scum
That's right! I should know by now sarcasm don't work well on the net!

LOL! I caught your sarcasm, friend!
But you came up with such a good example with "creative accounting", I couldn't resist!

33 posted on 07/29/2002 9:30:32 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Norvokov; Biker Scum
actually the devaluation of the dollar provides a great opportunity to decrease the amount of the trade deficit which the Chicoms presently have against us. Having such a strong dollar has both its pros and cons, lets just hope that we can manage the inflation rate at the same time. (Inflation is something the Chicoms are hoping to use against us)
34 posted on 07/29/2002 9:35:22 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Torie
Good perspective.
35 posted on 07/29/2002 9:36:11 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Enemy Of The State; Jeff Head
Bump.
36 posted on 07/29/2002 9:39:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Enemy Of The State
China's Taiwan Province ??? Oh please. A "province" with its own banking system, elected government, currency, military, embassies. Sigh... apologies if this is a little off the topic, but I'm still trying to get around the bs.
37 posted on 07/29/2002 9:41:12 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: Thane_Banquo
A bondholder cannot tell the US government what to do just because he owns a government bond.


The bondholder can tell the debtor to pay, and right now the government is not in a position to do that.
38 posted on 07/29/2002 9:42:17 PM PDT by MarshalNey
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To: Willie Green
Service sector activities do not create wealth, they merely transfer, redistribute and eventually dissipate wealth as consumption

Completely wrong. What is the difference between a) fixing a broken car so it runs like new and b) taking steel and plastic and making a new car ? How about renovating an old house vs. manufacturing a new one ? If the US had better investment advisors (service) they would not have wasted trillions of dollars building (manufacturing) telecom plants and facilities and internet and wireless infrastructures. Here services were more important than manufacturing because the services could have saved trillions, the manufacturing and building wasted trillions. Services are just as important as manufacturing.

39 posted on 07/29/2002 10:10:57 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Thane_Banquo
Why is it not good?

Some folks believe that, in a fit of anger, China would dump all its bonds into the secondary market... pummeling the value of our bonds instantly.

We, or someone else, would have to buy them up promptly.

40 posted on 07/29/2002 10:15:41 PM PDT by Principled
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