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U.S. Explores Strike Options Against Iraq-NY Times
New York Times ^ | July 29, 2002 | Reuters

Posted on 07/29/2002 3:43:09 AM PDT by ZULU

U.S. Explores Strike Options Against Iraq-NY Times Updated 2:41 AM ET July 29, 2002

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The United States is exploring the concept of taking Baghdad and one or two key command centers and weapons depots first in the hope of prompting a quick collapse of Saddam Hussein's Iraqi government, the New York Times reported on Monday.

The aim would be to kill or isolate Saddam and preempt Iraq's use of weapons of mass destruction, whether against an incoming force, front-line allies or Israel.

The Baghdad-first or "inside-out" approach would capitalize on the American military's ability to strike over long distances, maneuvering forces to envelop a large target, the Times said, citing senior administration and Pentagon officials.

Advocates of the plan say it reflects the desire to avoid committing a quarter-million American troops, yet hits hard enough to succeed, the newspaper said.

The advantages and risks of strikes aimed deep inside the country and radiating outward are under discussion, though no formal plan has been presented to President Bush or senior members of his national security team.

Officials say it may be possible to paralyze the highly centralized and authoritarian Iraqi command-and-control system. Mid-level officers are not taught to improvise, should they be cut off from commanders.

While other options are being considered, the Baghdad plan could appeal to Gulf allies of the U.S. who are nervous about a large-scale U.S. military deployment, the unnamed officials told The Times.

Yet the 250,000-man figure could still be accurate, the newspaper said, as it might take that many troops to ensure that forces dropped into Baghdad are not isolated or surrounded, bereft of support, food and ammunition.

Defense Department deputy spokesman Bryan Whitman had no comment in response to the article, the newspaper said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: insideout
Once again, these vicious partisan, anti-American b@stards at the New York Times are attempting to sabotage a foreign policy initiative.

In a purer and more pristine past, when men were allowed to act like men, a lynch party would have appeared at their headquarters, burned the presses and strung up the scumbags responsible for this.

AH for the good old days when men were men.

1 posted on 07/29/2002 3:43:09 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU
Report: US to hit Bagdad in Case of War

Here's an article posted earlier which mentions Congressman Biden.

2 posted on 07/29/2002 4:09:54 AM PDT by piasa
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To: ZULU
Either somebody at Defense is leaking this, or it's disinformation.
3 posted on 07/29/2002 4:12:29 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: ZULU
Love the headline- I vote for the strike against the NY Times, personally. Take on Iraq later.
4 posted on 07/29/2002 4:13:12 AM PDT by KeyWest
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To: M. Thatcher
Misinformation, since it comes from the NY Times. The NY Times is... in the average foreigner's view... the 'American newspaper' of choice. If we want something to be seen in Beijing or in the ME, it's the best place to put it. If we want it to be seen just in the US, we'd pick almost anything but the NY Times.

A talking head on Fox this morning said the US has been pastering Iraqi officer's e-mail accounts with messages about how badly they are going to get whipped, and assorted other things which might persuade them to take things into their own hands, or get other results. Perhaps this is part of it.

5 posted on 07/29/2002 4:22:34 AM PDT by piasa
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To: ZULU
...citing senior administration and Pentagon officials

Rumsfeld ain't gonna like another leaker. The Pentagon needs to find the folks with loose lips and drag their a$$es off in handcuffs.

6 posted on 07/29/2002 4:24:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: M. Thatcher
Or Biden, who conveniently isn't mentioned here although he appears in the other report as "not having been briefed." Which means, he probably has been briefed if we go by the similar behavior of other congressmen.
7 posted on 07/29/2002 4:25:10 AM PDT by piasa
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Would make much more sense to mount an operation like this against Tikrit, Saddam's home town. Would be much easier to take, and Saddam and his people would be much more likely to hole up there, once the shooting starts.
8 posted on 07/29/2002 4:27:14 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: piasa
Misinformation, since it comes from the NY Times. The NY Times is... in the average foreigner's view... the 'American newspaper' of choice. If we want something to be seen in Beijing or in the ME, it's the best place to put it. If we want it to be seen just in the US, we'd pick almost anything but the NY Times. A talking head on Fox this morning said the US has been pastering Iraqi officer's e-mail accounts with messages about how badly they are going to get whipped, and assorted other things which might persuade them to take things into their own hands, or get other results. Perhaps this is part of it.

Yes, I never underestimate Rumsfeld or his capacity to double-double think his enemies, both inside and outside the U.S. government. On the other hand, you cannot underestimate the capacity of anti-U.S. operatives (Clinton holdovers, but I repeat myself) inside the government bureaucracy to sabotage.

9 posted on 07/29/2002 4:28:18 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: KeyWest
U.S. Explores Strike Options Against Iraq-NY Times

That's exactly what I was thinking. I have no idea what the best option is for Iraq, but I figure 3-4 GPS guided munitions out to take care of the Times.
10 posted on 07/29/2002 4:34:05 AM PDT by self_evident
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Yes, I never underestimate Rumsfeld or his capacity to double-double think his enemies, both inside and outside the U.S. government. On the other hand, you cannot underestimate the capacity of anti-U.S. operatives (Clinton holdovers, but I repeat myself) inside the government bureaucracy to sabotage.
>>>>>>>

maybe these are statigially placed statements to see if they can pinpoint who might be leaking?
11 posted on 07/29/2002 4:36:00 AM PDT by tickles
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That's what I mean by double-double think.

Hard to tell who is pulling the strings in this particular news story, tho -- Rumsfeld or our enemies.

12 posted on 07/29/2002 4:38:49 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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Boy is Iran going to be surprised...

:-D

13 posted on 07/29/2002 5:07:40 AM PDT by piasa
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Do you have any more details on that? I was just imagining an Iraqi officer going through his morning email:

Britney Spears naked
Nigerian money laundering scheme
Death threat from Donald Rumsfeld
Human Growth Hormone alternatives
Joke about Sadam and a camel with far too many > > > > at the beginning of lines.
Another death threat from Rumsfeld

14 posted on 07/29/2002 6:50:44 AM PDT by KarlInOhio
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