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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
The ALLIES WON!! German and Austria lost!!

I couldn't care less about Russia or Serbia in all this. I am HIGHLY offended by folks who blame everybody for WWI but those GERMANIC LOSERS who really picked the fight in the first place!!

My Granddad was in a wonderful ticker tape parade in NYC, losers do NOT get VICTORY PARADES or MEDALS!! He spoke about it till the day of his death. Just like his Dad before him and his son to follow, he was a career Army officer and he was happy and proud to serve his country.

Folks like you, using GERMAN sounding names....come here an spout such milarky about AMERICANS not really winning. THAT is PURE JUNK...liberal-socialist revisionist history.

You cannot ever convince me the Allies lost....and Granddad would have popped you in the head for being so disrespectful of the his men...THEY DID NOT LOSE....THEY WON!! They fought hard and they WON!!

Got it??? He was on the winning side...PERIOD!! He was proud of it!!

I have his WWI Medals right here in my house....and pictures of him on his horse while serving in France.

98 posted on 08/02/2002 9:37:46 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: crazykatz
"I am HIGHLY offended by folks who blame everybody for WWI but those GERMANIC LOSERS who really picked the fight in the first place!!"

Odd idea you have about picking a fight. Russia mobilises along the German border in support of terrorists and Germany is at fault! Are you a product liability attorney, by any chance?

Or do you mean that Germany picked a fight with the U.S? Are you aware that Williams Jennings Bryant resigned his cabinet post in protest over President Wilson's violations of neutraility. Are you aware that the English government used American civilians as a human shield to protect the conveyance of munitions across the Atlantic -- with the full collusion of the Wilson government? So, who's picking a fight here?

"My Granddad was in a wonderful ticker tape parade in NYC, losers do NOT get VICTORY PARADES or MEDALS!! He spoke about it till the day of his death. Just like his Dad before him and his son to follow, he was a career Army officer and he was happy and proud to serve his country."

Well, isn't that special. Lots of people get a warm and fuzzy feeling from having served in their country's armed forced, and that goes for Communists, Nazis, and al Qaeda operatives as well. So what happens when your country is WRONG? Does that ever happen in your universe, or are you okay with things like (for example) Wounded Knee? How about the bombing of Belgrad? Do you think the guys who blew up that Serbian television building deserve some tickertape and a nice parade in New York?

"Folks like you, using GERMAN sounding names....come here an spout such milarky about AMERICANS not really winning. THAT is PURE JUNK...liberal-socialist revisionist history."

I'll just venture a guess here: I bet all of your opponents are liberal-socialist revisionists. As they say, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. All serious history is to some extent revisionist, depending on how badly the historical record had been mauled by contemporaneous propaganda. During the Great War, the disconnect between reality and propaganda was vast. Adolf Hitler, in fact, was a great admirer of the English propaganda system. And many of the records of what actually happened have been kept in secret files until comparatively recently. This is how, at last, we KNOW that the Lusitania was set up by the Admiralty with the specific purpose of luring the U.S. into the war.

"You cannot ever convince me the Allies lost."

I do not recall attempting to convince you of any such thing. The Allies won, and the world has been the worse for it.

". . . and Granddad would have popped you in the head for being so disrespectful of the his men . . ."

Ah, the argumentum ad baculum. I guess it would be disrespectful to call them the unwitting dupes of English foreign policy. But certainly no more disrespectful then turning the firehoses on them when they marched on Washington to demand their blood money.

"Got it??? He was on the winning side...PERIOD!! He was proud of it!!

Pride goeth before a fall. The Guiness Book of World Records is full of people who are proud of having done something or other. Whether or not they should be is another matter.

101 posted on 08/02/2002 11:10:59 PM PDT by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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