[Cachelot]

Actually Tunisia is moving in the opposite and a postive direction

Actually, nice socio-economic statistics may not matter all that much. They have a fundamentalist movement up in arms.

Look to Iran, and you'll see how much an illusion a westernized and well-to-do muslim society can be. Or to Lebanon.

[Torie]

Look to the birth rates, and in Lebanon, who moved in. That is really the lodestar here.