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Bugs: The Best Witnesses? (Westerfield's Son Neal Forced To Testify By Desperate D.A. Dusek!!)
Court TV ^ | July 25, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/24/2002 10:44:59 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Did you notice Feldman's been reading the Hawaii BugMan's papers, he quoted him today and used him against MummyMan.
821 posted on 07/25/2002 4:18:37 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: FresnoDA
Thanks Bunny, I will send you a bunch of carrots...(I work in the Produce Industry you know!!)

Wow, didn't know. I work in the stockmarket (seatbelt time) but it doesn't hold a carrot to produce people.

I have 9 uncles ... all farmers as well as my dad (all long gone) ... avocado farmers and old California. I have had a "thing" about agriculture ever since and wish I had gone to Cal Davis.

I don't know where y'all are but the produce market here in downtown Los Angeles is AWESOME. I'llbet it's really nice in Fresno. Ever been to Lindsay CA with all the olives ... CA is great ... my hometown.

822 posted on 07/25/2002 4:19:42 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: VRWC_minion
The second mistake is one of strategy. When the real bug guy testifies he will know exactly how Feldman is going to cross so he will be better prepared. Goff won't make the same mistakes.

Goff will not make the same mistake as this guy. Goff will not try to B.S. his way past Feldman and will simply answer the questions asked by Feldman without trying to spin like this guy is.

823 posted on 07/25/2002 4:20:09 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: agarrett
Feldman was hot to read as much counter technical information as he could into the record during his questions. Mudd finally had enough and called him on it.

Mudd does slow the Felmanization process somewhat.
824 posted on 07/25/2002 4:21:12 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: ernie pantuso
The poster meant "prosecution" and I knew that and didn't bother to correct him.
825 posted on 07/25/2002 4:22:40 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: VRWC_minion
In your hypothetical the girl is following the dog not leading it. If she were following the dog its doubtfull the dog would have went into RV.

I would suggest you slow down and really read what I said.

Again. Here is the scenerio. The dog is out loose. The child follows the dog where it is going. It (the dog) ends up at the motor home. (Maybe smelling urine that another dog squirted on the tires.)The child then is curious about whats inside and opens the door and goes in. Then the dog follows her into the motor home.Capish?

826 posted on 07/25/2002 4:23:38 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: connectthedots
I trust he has proof the great San Diego Snow Pack melted on Feb 14th.

I actually heard somebody today on TV describe the "frost" as "snow".
827 posted on 07/25/2002 4:25:24 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: spectre
His poor wife...can you imagine what his idea of porno tapes are? Whoa!

Since I posted to your earlier I checked alt.true-crime. The Cary Stayner trial is going on right now ... the guy who killed the 3 women at Yosemite and the Yosemite naturalist.

About child porn.:

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/3721590.htm

Tape: Stayner asked FBI for child porn in exchange for confession
By the Mercury News

Before he would confess, Cary Stayner wanted guarantees from FBI agents that they'd supply him with child pornography in prison, something he says had tormented him his entire life.

If he'd given into his urges before the killings, ``maybe this stuff wouldn't have happened,'' Stayner told the agents moments before detailing the gruesome killings of a Yosemite tour guide and three tourists in 1999.

``We're going to bust our butt,'' to help, FBI agents told Stayner on the tape played Tuesday in a Santa Clara County courtroom.

828 posted on 07/25/2002 4:25:41 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Spunky
He's gone skiing, and I'm going out to dinner and don't have time to argue this right now. See you later...
829 posted on 07/25/2002 4:28:15 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: John Jamieson
Well he wouldn't use it against himself during the appeal process would he? That would harm him not help him. It seems more likely that it would point towards a 3rd party don't you think jj?
830 posted on 07/25/2002 4:29:20 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: VRWC_minion
That's probably the dumbest thing you've said yet.
831 posted on 07/25/2002 4:31:04 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: BunnySlippers
OMG!!! That is unbelievable!
832 posted on 07/25/2002 4:31:46 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
was there sand?

My understanding is that it is sandy soil in that area. I may be wrong though.

Kim are you aware that the Anthropologist testifying today put the time of death anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks of the time the body was found?

HE IS SAYING BASED ON HIS STUDY SHE COULD HAVE BEEN DEAD SINCE JANUARY 23.

So much for his testimony as everybody knows she was alive then.

833 posted on 07/25/2002 4:32:20 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
So you think it will be used in appeals process? That just doesn't make sense to me...

Sorry to butt in here but I believe he means that until there is a final decision in the case the statements won't be unsealed. This being due to, as far as I can tell, a valid claim that two of the interrogating officers violated DW's civil rights.
DW and his attorney, I believe, made a formal misconduct complaint about his being held without arrest for a considerable time, no food, drink, and not heeding his requests to have an attorney present before any further questions.
You can consent to "go down to the station and answer some questions", but when you say you want a lawyer present they MUST stop questioning and either arrest the person as suspect or let them leave.
The explosive statement made was probably a smart a@@!# remark due to the treatment he was receiving after CONSENTING to speak with them.
BTW wasn't there supposed to be a decision by the judge as to what if any of the two officers personnel file Feldman could bring up in court?

834 posted on 07/25/2002 4:32:21 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: basscleff
Mummy movies are EXPLOSIVE AS A CONFESSION at the boxoffice!


835 posted on 07/25/2002 4:32:56 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers
Child pornography is a symptom, not a cause, of some sociopathic minds. Even if child porn did not exist, the sick mind of a sociopath would still commit horrendous crimes.

Bundy was a self-serving jerk and it sounds like Stayner is as well. It is not uncommon for a heinous murderer to play the "victim" and blame his conduct on someone or something else.

Finally, the Meese Commission study on pornography that you impicitly referred to in an earlier post never concluded that there is a connection between pornography and violent crime.

836 posted on 07/25/2002 4:33:00 PM PDT by ernie pantuso
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
No, it can't be used during appeals either.

I'm sure it's one of those things like "Gee, this would be a good place to bury a body", and in fact that could be it. Either way, it's something Mudd thinks is loaded with emotional value way beyond it's evidentary value, or he wouldn't have sealed it.
837 posted on 07/25/2002 4:34:39 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
That's the best post I've seen yet.
838 posted on 07/25/2002 4:35:28 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I dunno. Just a thought.
839 posted on 07/25/2002 4:36:03 PM PDT by TamiPie
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To: cyncooper
OMG!!! That is unbelievable!

I've always been a true crime buff ... but the Stayner trial has been horrific. They had an article the other day that the county prepared for a crush of people interested in a high profile trial ... but it didn;t happen.

840 posted on 07/25/2002 4:36:12 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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