Bugs: The Best Witnesses? (Westerfield's Son Neal Forced To Testify By Desperate D.A. Dusek!!)

Court TV ^ | July 25, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

[Freedom2specul8]

Remember when you talked about getting gross talking about certain entry points? bear with me... if mummification occurred in those areas...and bacteria that he mentioned earlier didn't increase or take over the genital area until after the obvious animal activity....it's possible the natural orfices weren't used.

[cyncooper]

I don't how many of you watched the Mark Chmura trial about a year-and-a-half ago,

I couldn't bear watching, I was so disappointed with Chmura. We're Packer fans, plus, Chmura had been featured in the Catholic newspaper when we lived in WI as a good guy! Bummer...(Gerald Boyle was Dahmer's atty, too)

[VRWC_minion]

His estimate was the body mummified in 24hrs.

[ernie pantuso]

If you are correctly posting this "expert"'s opinion, then Dusek should never have used him and just went with Goff. Again, if he is adamant on 4-6 weeks, then his testimony is worthless.

[demsux]

I guess

[Spunky]

Very talented dog to open the door.

Ok and the dog wants to go in the RV why ?

Did I say anything in my posting about the motorhome? No! Now I will though.

Silly, redlipstick, a dog can't open a door. But what if Danielle found him by the motor home and she got curious and opened the door and went in. (And don't give me what the prosecution tried to indicate. That Danielle couldn't reach the door.) My daughter at 2 years old was on top of the refrigerator and one time when my husband was on the roof working he hears, "Me help Daddy." He looks and she is right there. When a child is determined to do something they can.

minion, you ask why would the dog want to go in the RV? Well if the above scenerio occured, he would want to go in with the child. ;-)

[demsux]

Uh Oh....ReFeldmanization taking place...this guy might cry

[VRWC_minion]

Jay Hennesy ? Defense/Pros atty's opinion via KFO,

Is this witnes blunting the effect ? All of these witnesses may cancel each other. What this witness is doing is emphasing the science is based on estimates and there is only one person who has all the evidence pointing at him and that is Westerfield.

[demsux]

ReFeldmanization complete, he can stop now

[John Jamieson]

I don't believe he made that claim, but I'd have to see the transcripts to be sure.

[VRWC_minion]

minion, you ask why would the dog want to go in the RV? Well if the above scenerio occured, he would want to go in with the child. ;-)

In your hypothetical the girl is following the dog not leading it. If she were following the dog its doubtfull the dog would have went into RV.

[cyncooper]

Witness co-authored a chapter on entymology?

[Freedom2specul8]

Did you hear this morning's testimony...here's what we heard..but wait until transcripts of course.

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On News/Activism Jul 25 3:59 PM #534 of 702 2 types of bacteria, anaerobic bacteria doesn't need oxygen...and aerobic bacteria needs oxygen. The first kind is always there and takes over when body breaks down.

On News/Activism Jul 25 1:54 PM #293 of 702 Mummification where it's not complete, like in danielles case --LOST FEED-- you actually as the body mummifies--lost feed--- the dried skin can help KEEP moisture in the body..the skin can remain in tact or preserved ---lost feed---

On News/Activism Jul 25 1:47 PM #282 of 702 under the body..if no leakage..fluid can dry out quickly. The leaf debris -lost feed- we have no fluid. :( very little post mortem staining of the soil

Posted by VRWC_minion to ~Kim4VRWC's~ On News/Activism Jul 25 1:37 PM #260 of 702 When animal activity, scavenging can expose area that wasn't available to insects. Some larva and flies might make it if it dries fast. But if animal comes in it gives insects access to parts that normally can't.

On News/Activism Jul 25 1:37 PM #259 of 702 flies..if they can access enriched fluids like blood..the main area of attack/infestation, blowflie larvas will enter the area where the blood is available cuz it's more nurtrious. EDIT: even if it's 2 weeks later. (blech)

Posted by ~Kim4VRWC's~ On News/Activism Jul 25 1:33 PM #253 of 702 VERY rapid mummification that is known to occur with small individuals. can occur within 24hrs

On News/Activism Jul 25 1:32 PM #252 of 702 the gross physical changes missed part the mummification --because of the smaller mass, (child) will mummify more quickly.

On News/Activism Jul 25 1:08 PM #215 of 702 yes..dry winds, solar radiation, lack of moisture and lack of bacteria can contribute to mummification. Think beef jerky and dehydrators. *he mentioned jerky

[spectre]

If he gets to depressed, maybe someone will drive him by the San Diego Garbage dump...that should cheer him up! Lots of Blow-flys there.

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[Stiv]

I couldn't bear watching, I was so disappointed with Chmura. We're Packer fans, plus, Chmura had been featured in the Catholic newspaper when we lived in WI as a good guy! Bummer...(Gerald Boyle was Dahmer's atty, too)

Re: Chmura trial. My gut told me he was guilty, much more than my gut tells me Westerfield is guilty, but by the time Boyle had finished his cross-ex of the first witness I knew it was all over for the prosecution. In a kind, fatherly manner he walked the female witness through the night, and by the time he'd gotten to the end she'd had something around 16 drinks and (like most of the kids at the party) was too blitzed to be reliable. Chmura's career kinda went down the drain, though.

The Dahmer dig was a bit unnecessary -- somebody had to defend the guy, and Boyle had the guts to do it. I'm too lazy to go check but I think Boyle went with an insantiy plea, which seemed like the only realistic move with a guy like Dahmer.

 

[VRWC_minion]

I think the defense managed to cancel out all bug stuff so far and will be in control on this issue when Goff testifies.

[Freedom2specul8]

I'm still waiting to hear from feldman on what he has that's explosive as a confession.

[Freedom2specul8]

Dusek: "I could prove that DW did it, but the ant took my evidence."

Cute JJ... :)

[VRWC_minion]

By all, time to go skiing.