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Bugs: The Best Witnesses? (Westerfield's Son Neal Forced To Testify By Desperate D.A. Dusek!!)
Court TV ^ | July 25, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/24/2002 10:44:59 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: truth_seeker
dunno bout comparing bug evidence to blood evidence - but it seems that pathologists typically look to entemologists to help narrow thier times frames and more difinitively give a PMI.
641 posted on 07/25/2002 2:44:52 PM PDT by mommya
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To: truth_seeker
Not even Lisa Bloom puts any creditability in this guy, she said he's toast (and she's very antiWesterfield).
642 posted on 07/25/2002 2:45:01 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: cyncooper
"I wonder why DW himself (once again some are loathe to understand why he would tell the police certain things) told the police it was a spur of the moment trip?"

A trip somewhere, could generally have been talked about for that weekend, but any actual destination plans, or travel itinerary may have been strictly a "spur of the moment" thing. It's a possibility, anyway, IMO.

643 posted on 07/25/2002 2:45:46 PM PDT by theirjustdue
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To: connectthedots
The prosecution is suggesting mummifaction took place prior to the disposal of the body, which inhibited the blowfly activity from beginning until the middle of February

Did I miss something?

I don't recall the prosecution suggesting that she had been placed there later. They seem to be sticking with the 2/1-2 time period. In fact, wasn't it one of their witnesses who brought out the fact that the drag marks were such that their was no way to be construed as a body being dragged. The drag marks were more in line and size with an animal having pulled out insides then dropping them and dragging them.

644 posted on 07/25/2002 2:46:27 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: mommya
MUMMY MAN is toast.
645 posted on 07/25/2002 2:46:31 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: truth_seeker
"What is (only) important, is the credibility and weight determined, by the JURY."


I don't know, but do you think the JURY will place much credibility in a witness that suggests she was dead about the middle of JANUARY?

Also, that the ants carried off the eggs of the flies/maggots and on that they will send a man to his death?

646 posted on 07/25/2002 2:46:38 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: crystalk
No, they have some really serious business to tend te o.

You all, Don Knotts basically contradicted all of the other evdence, saying the body could have been discarded on Jan. 23rd - 25th or January 31st! Feldmanized! She wasn't even dead then.

Judge Mudd is going to come to a resolution of whatever issue is before them..no one wants to disclose it on the Rick Roberts show. It's a mystery...Do we love a mystery? Oh yeah.

sw

647 posted on 07/25/2002 2:46:42 PM PDT by spectre
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To: All
Another 36 hours and the brain would have been full of maggots. This argues very powerfully that the body had not been there any great length of time. Wasn't it on the 12th or 13th that this site was searched, and the body not there at that time?
648 posted on 07/25/2002 2:46:43 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: John Jamieson
What a waste of a day
649 posted on 07/25/2002 2:47:11 PM PDT by It's me
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To: spectre; Travis McGee
Travis, do you realize that there isn't ONE forensic psychologist who can link watching Porn, albeit disgusting, to rape/murder?

Run TED BUNDY PORNOGRAPHY through a search engine and you will find lots of studys linking pornography and crime. Having said that I'm not sure that I don't agree with you. But here is an excerpt from an interview:

http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner/X0332_Ted_Bundy.html

What we learned from Ted Bundy

In the last few hours prior to his widely-publicized execution for the murder of as many as 50 young women and girls from Utah, Washington, Idaho, Colorado and Florida, the serial killer asked Christian psychologist James Dobson to visit him at the Florida State Prison. Bundy had corresponded with Dr. Dobson - a former member of President Reagan's Commission on Pornography - for two years prior to their meeting. While anxious reporters waited outside, Bundy told Dobson about the influence of pornography on his behavior.

Bundy said he began casually reading soft-core pornography when he was 12 or 13 years old. His friends found pornographic books in the garbage cans in his neighborhood: "(F)rom time to time we would come across pornographic books of a harder nature ... a more graphic, explicit nature than we would encounter at the local grocery store," he told Dobson in the taped interview. "But slowly throughout the years reading pornography began to become a deadly habit.

"My experience with pornography ... is once you become addicted to it, (and I look at this as a kind of addiction like other kinds of addiction), I would keep looking for more potent, more explicit, more graphic kinds of material. Like an addiction, you keep craving something that is harder, something which gives you a greater sense of excitement. Until you reach a point where the pornography only goes so far, you reach that jumping off point where you begin to wonder if maybe actually doing it would give you that which is beyond just reading or looking at it."

Within a few years, those latent desires fueled by pornography were expressed through his first murder. Although Bundy said he did not blame pornography, he explained that pornographic materials shaped and molded his behavior. He also warned the nation that "the most damaging kinds of pornography ... are those that involve violence and sexual violence. Because the wedding of those two forces, as I know only too well, brings out the hatred that is just, just too terrible to describe."

Bundy said that pornography "snatched me out of my home 20, 30 years ago ... and pornography can reach out and snatch a kid out of any house today." His religious training and morality initially restrained him from acting out his fantasies, but he confessed that finally, "I couldn't hold back anymore."

Alcohol supposedly broke the restraints for him to commit his first murder. "What alcohol did in conjunction with exposure to pornography is (sic) alcohol reduced my inhibitions at the same time the fantasy life that was fueled by pornography eroded them further."

650 posted on 07/25/2002 2:47:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: John Jamieson
MUMMY MAN IS MUMMIFIED.
651 posted on 07/25/2002 2:47:39 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: It's me
"What a waste of a day"


I said that this morning. LOL


652 posted on 07/25/2002 2:49:22 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: BunnySlippers
Bunny, that was a good post, and for the record, it would be a good case for Dusek to bring up. BUT, OTOH, one or two or three, such cases don't make it Proof positive.

sw

653 posted on 07/25/2002 2:50:40 PM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
:-)
654 posted on 07/25/2002 2:52:35 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: All
The closed meeting this morning with the jury was because, a person followed 2 jurers to their car and took down their liscense number. The judge is not actually accusing the media but it is a pretty good implication that it was one of them. If it happens again he will cut the coverage
655 posted on 07/25/2002 2:53:10 PM PDT by Spunky
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Reasons for secretive sessions is serious. Yesterday afternoon the court had a serious breach. Two jurors were followed and someone wrote down license plates. My one and only concern is that westerfield gets fair trial unintimidated.
656 posted on 07/25/2002 2:53:35 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: truth_seeker
Damon destroyed the alarm chip....

Never heard that before. Can you support it with evidence? Was it testified as so, in the courtroom?

In the preliminary hearing, Damon said he wanted to "test" the alarm chip to see if it could be neutralized, so he stuck a child's magnet on it and sure enough it caused the device not to work. It also had a second effect, i.e., the magnetization at the very least would have wiped the chip clean and at worst have completely screwed it up.

657 posted on 07/25/2002 2:53:42 PM PDT by Stiv
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To: All
He says people are saying they have a right to an open court. He says they do and they are here. There is no admendment that says it has to go out to the whole country. (paraphrasing)
658 posted on 07/25/2002 2:55:08 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: spectre
Spec are you listening to the judge? We are toast if he cuts off the cameras, because we will only get updates from VERY biased reporters. I hope whatever tabloid or reporter doing that crap knocks it off.
659 posted on 07/25/2002 2:55:38 PM PDT by Lanza
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To: All
I suspect someone connected with RR (who's the most hungry for an *exclusive*), followed the 2 jurors and got their license numbers.
660 posted on 07/25/2002 2:56:13 PM PDT by the Deejay
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