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Bugs: The Best Witnesses? (Westerfield's Son Neal Forced To Testify By Desperate D.A. Dusek!!)
Court TV ^ | July 25, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/24/2002 10:44:59 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: ItsOurTimeNow
The testimony by Susan Ls daughter is the only testimony of when the RV was in the park. She testified that the addition to the RV was done during one day at the park, and that this was while she was living at DW's house.

She lived at DW's from August to October of 2000.

The dog is just now a year old, meaning the dog wasn't even born yet in October of 2000.
381 posted on 07/25/2002 1:01:12 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: VRWC_minion
It IS a judgement call. When my 10 year old son needs to use the restroom and we are out in public, I stand right outside the men's room. I have been known to call in if he has not come out within an appropriate amount of time.

Of course, even standing outside doesn't protect them ,as evidenced by the murder of a little boy in Oceanside, in a public restroom, while his aunt waited for him outside.

382 posted on 07/25/2002 1:02:02 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Richard Kimball; All
OK, it's hard to address the questions one by one.

First off, bringing a Forensic Psychologist in to say that Pornography precludes rape/murder, just cannot be PROVEN. If Feldman brings one on that says "No, there is no proof that DW committed this crime because he viewed horrible porno"...then Dusek counters with "Well, but you can't prove that he didn't do it because of the Porno"..and the answer is No, you can't. It's a wash for either side. I know WE don't see it that way, and while we can speculate and use common sense, it is only an opinion, not backed up by statistics...or PROOF. Sort of like, just because I am into gun collecting, doesn't mean I want to shoot someone..But then again??

I listened to this expert. He is assuming alot of variables...too many. He goes thru the process of many different feeding cycles of animals and insects.

The last one, about the ants carrying off fly larva was true, but in this case, Dr. Haskell witnessed that the larva and life cycle of the blow-fly did indeed take place.

BUT if the ants were to carry off, let's say the very first cycle, around the time she should have been dumped, Feb 4th or 5th, then where did the ants go when Haskell did his investigation? If we are to believe that ants carried off all the larva evidence, then I guess there would never be any maggots on anything? THAT's alot of ants considering the amount of eggs the blowflys lay for those tiny ants to carry off...leaving no trace evidence. Remember that Haskell testified they find their "feeding" source usually within one hour after body is out in the open. And keep in mind, that the insects only eat on fleshy stuff, so once the body is totally dried up, the process stops.

The one outstanding thing the witness DID say, was there is absolutely no way to tell, from insect and animal activity, PRECISELY when the body was placed THERE. AGAIN, he goes on to explain that it depends on many, many things...insects, animals, etc., which may take time to start eating away at the body, or may not be present yet, depending on how hungry they are. OR different insects will actually slow down the decomposation of the body.

Are we not to believe Haskells findings? This guy has thrown in enough to confuse everyone, and that's probably the point. We'll see on cross.

sw

383 posted on 07/25/2002 1:02:05 PM PDT by spectre
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To: connectthedots
"I think this guy will be Feldmanized within the first five minutes of the cross-examination."


So do I. He's been going on & on about bugs. He's not a bug expert. Just has general knowledge. And testing the temperature of the road 2 days ago. What was that for & about? February road temperature is much different than July, for heaven's sake.

He hasn't proven anything about time/date of death & a volume of other things.

Thanks for the informative testimony post!

384 posted on 07/25/2002 1:02:31 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Who were ALSO alone in a DIFFERENT store!!
385 posted on 07/25/2002 1:02:40 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: VRWC_minion
I don't know. I believe she testified only to the fact that she left her alone inthe dressing room. No testimony as to whether she asked the clerk to keep an eye out.
386 posted on 07/25/2002 1:03:17 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: connectthedots
The prosecution is suggesting mummifaction took place prior to the disposal of the body, which inhibited the blowfly activity from beginning until the middle of February.

That isn't what I heard. He seemed to indicate that the conditions of the nearby hot road, plus the small body, plus the other surroundings made "instant" (24hrs) mummifaction possible. I don't recall him saying anything about mummification beforehand but I did miss some of it.

387 posted on 07/25/2002 1:04:00 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Mrs.Liberty
The boys were alone in the toystore. She took Danielle to Mervyn's and left HER alone, while going back for the boys.

388 posted on 07/25/2002 1:04:04 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Politicalmom
Thank you, PolMom.
389 posted on 07/25/2002 1:04:52 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Mrs.Liberty
Dog is (was) not even a year old yet.An untrained puppy would be even harder for a child to walk. They would be all over the place. My 7 year old would last about 100 yards.
390 posted on 07/25/2002 1:05:36 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Mrs.Liberty
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391 posted on 07/25/2002 1:06:12 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: VRWC_minion
He seemed to indicate that the conditions of the nearby hot road

He just recently took roadside temps, no? Hot road is not as hot in Feb.

392 posted on 07/25/2002 1:06:17 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: rolling_stone
what are the possible false positives for the "presumptive test"?

I'm WAAAAAAY behind today, but I saw your post about the "blood" on DAW's jacket and motorhome carpet. Since this is something I've been researching a bit, I thought I'd chime in. :o)

The presumptive test uses a little reactive plastic stick sometimes called a Hemostix. It indicates a positive reading for anything with oxygen in it, including blood, saliva, mucus (snot), non-human-provided rust, even insect droppings or squished fly guts. Further testing would be required to determine that the stain is actually blood, and even FURTHER tests to determine if it is indeed human blood--tests which the SDPD did not perform.

In addition, blood can react positively and provide a full DNA profile after 30 years, and a partial profile after more than 50 years. Saliva, even when diluted to 1 part in 100 (like washed or wiped off or dry-cleaned, perhaps), also reacts with a positive reading with the hemostix and provides a full DNA profile even when the stain is more than a dozen years old.

I find it quite odd that a savagely brutal rape and murder provided such tiny remnants of evidence, the same evidence which could have been left in those two locations YEARS earlier (Danielle moved to the Sabre Springs home two years earlier, and that's about how long DAW had that motorhome).

My .02, you understand, but something that certainly seems to indicate a perfectly innocent explanation for Danielle's DNA on DAW's jacket and a tiny spot on the MH carpet. Perhaps a sneeze that sprayed droplets of DNA in a wide radius while she went into the MH to retrieve a wayward Layla, stopping for just a moment to look out the window or regain her balance and leaving a fingerprint on the side of the cabinet.

393 posted on 07/25/2002 1:07:02 PM PDT by shezza
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To: redlipstick
"Can you give any kind of a time frame of when you think Danielle took the dog for a walk and played in the RV?

It would have to have been before it was stored in November, right?"

Yes it would, rl. The print and trace evidence would have remained from the time the MH was bought by DW, unless somehow disturbed by wiping, or other type of cleaning.

Based on all the trace evidence that turned up - that had been left by other visitors to his MH - it doesn't appear to me, that DW was near as fastidious about housekeeping, as he was, early on, given credit.

394 posted on 07/25/2002 1:07:54 PM PDT by theirjustdue
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To: archy; Travis McGee
I do not believe that OJ is innocent of complicity in the murders of his ex-wife and Ron Goldman. But neither do I believe that the murders took lace in the manner theorized by the prosecution, and that accordingly, the jury rendered the correct verdict.

Archy, you iz rite. I know who did kill Nicole, it was very obvious and yet well covered up. If you want to know, PRIVMAIL me and I will tell you.

395 posted on 07/25/2002 1:08:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: connectthedots
THAT was a great read! You're very good.

sw

396 posted on 07/25/2002 1:08:14 PM PDT by spectre
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To: bolthead
That type of carelessness explains to me why the doors might be unlocked and alarm not set.
397 posted on 07/25/2002 1:08:23 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
I was commenting on the prosecution's theory related to 'mummification', not this particular witness' testimony.
398 posted on 07/25/2002 1:09:28 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: the-gooroo
great catch gooroo
399 posted on 07/25/2002 1:09:33 PM PDT by mommya
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To: VRWC_minion
Side note...I totally know what you mean. We have a two year old daughter that is VERY curious about how everything works. I can't wait until she's older, hopefulyl she'll appreciate it when I tell her how many times we've saved her from certain disaster. She once got my keys off the table and was about 3 inches away from sticking them into an exposed electrical outlet. I've never moved so fast in all my life...lol
400 posted on 07/25/2002 1:10:12 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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