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Bush Drops Iran Reformists And Backs Dissidents
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7-24-2002 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 07/24/2002 3:56:30 PM PDT by blam

Bush drops Iran reformists and backs dissidents

By Toby Harnden in Washington
(Filed: 24/07/2002)

President George W Bush has abandoned attempts to woo reformist elements in the Iranian government and is now publicly backing dissidents determined to overthrow the regime.

George W Bush

The decision follows a fierce battle between Washington hardliners and Colin Powell, the secretary of state, who had argued that President Mohammad Khatami's reform programme should be encouraged.

Mr Bush hopes that Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran's supreme ruler, will be toppled by a democratic revolt, possibly inspired by the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in Iraq being planned by America.

Mr Khatami reacted angrily. In a speech in Kuala Lumpur, he said: "We wish to caution the great powers against further interference in the affairs of this region and against the exacerbation of the flames of war."

Referring to American plans to oust Saddam, he said: "No one has the right to decide for the people of Iraq. They should decide for themselves."

A senior official told the Washington Post that Mr Khatami and his supporters were "too weak, ineffective and not serious about fulfilling their promises" and could not outflank Ayatollah Khamenei.

In January, Mr Bush identified Iran, Iraq and North Korea as part of an "axis of evil". Since then, an internal debate has raged about how best to undermine the ayatollah.

Nearly a fortnight ago the president signalled his conclusion by issuing a statement saying: "The Iranian people voted for political and economic reform, yet their voices are not being listened to by the unelected people who are the real rulers of Iran."

The statement was broadcast to Iranians through the Voice of America radio station and Zalmay Khalizad, the White House official responsible for Iranian policy, gave an interview in Farsi promoting the new policy.

This hardening of attitude towards Iran is another divergence between Britain and America on foreign policy. Tony Blair has argued privately that lines to Mr Khatami should be kept open.

Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, was criticised by some Bush advisers for visiting Teheran last September to try to enlist Iran in the war against terrorism.

When the Iranian ship the Karine A, loaded with 50 tons of weapons for the Palestinians, was seized by Israel in the Red Sea in January, the White House concluded that official sanction had been given.

Bush sources said the Karine A incident was one of two reasons that Iran was included in the "axis of evil". The other, an American official said, was Iran's "extremely active and complex nuclear programme" which could lead to a nuclear capability within years.

Mr Bush and President Vladimir Putin have been discussing how best to prevent nuclear know-how being passed to Iran.

But the US official said: "The difficulty is how you stop bits and pieces of Russia's government and state-owned enterprises making money out of this. The problem is seven or eight levels down in Russia's missile or nuclear establishment."

Shortly before Mr Bush's statement, the State Department had brushed off suggestions that the White House might publicly back Iranian demonstrators.

"The official United States line is that we do not comment when people demonstrate," said Richard Boucher, Mr Powell's spokesman.

After Mr Bush had spoken, Mr Boucher said: "We support the process of change that [the demonstrators] are calling for."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrineunfold; drops; iran; reformists

1 posted on 07/24/2002 3:56:31 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Reliance upon so-called Iranian reformists is what got the Reagan Administration in deep stew over the attempt to free hostages in Lebanon, and what eventually grew into the Iran-Contra scandal. First rule of Arab foreign policy: None of these people can be trusted. If we have to work with anyone, let it be sworn enemies of the existing regimes.
2 posted on 07/24/2002 4:46:32 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: blam
Sounds like Michael Ledeen's e-mails have finally gotten through.

This soundbite from Khatami is especially rich:

Referring to American plans to oust Saddam, he said: "No one has the right to decide for the people of Iraq. They should decide for themselves."

Right. The last time they tried that, they got mowed down by Saddam's helicopter gunships.

3 posted on 07/24/2002 4:56:05 PM PDT by Argus
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To: blam
Referring to American plans to oust Saddam, he said: "No one has the right to decide for the people of Iraq. They should decide for themselves."

And so they will, once we have rid them of Saddam. Too bad the Iranian people can't rid themselves of their mullah dictators, though they clearly want to.

Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, was criticised by some Bush advisers for visiting Teheran last September to try to enlist Iran in the war against terrorism. When the Iranian ship the Karine A, loaded with 50 tons of weapons for the Palestinians, was seized by Israel in the Red Sea in January, the White House concluded that official sanction had been given.

Iranian government officals are also under US indictment for planning the Khobar Towers bombing. And yesterday the SF Chronicle ran a front page article naming Iranian government officials who planned and perpatrated the bombing of a Jewish center in Buenos Aires and paid then Argentine President Menem 10 million dollars to cover it up. Oh yeah, real "allies".

4 posted on 07/24/2002 5:18:32 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin
I worry than Iran and possibly Syria may intervene into our Iraq activities once they are underway. (They wouldn't be that stupid, would they?)
5 posted on 07/24/2002 5:28:55 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
I've been thinking of the effect that the fall of Saddam will have on Iran and Syria, and it isn't good for them, especially the ruling juntas. Believe it or not, Iraq is a fairly civilized and advanced nation with a functioning infrastructure, unlike Afghanistan. Once Saddam goes down, the US supported leader, hopefully a pro-democracy reformer, will instantly be a great weapon to wield against the mullahs in Iran. Think of it, a successful, pro-Western country right next to Iran. It will just be a matter of time then, the Iranian hardliners are only kept in power by their weapons. Those soldiers want to prosper too.
7 posted on 07/24/2002 5:36:42 PM PDT by Mr.Clark
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To: *Bush Doctrine Unfold; Ernest_at_the_Beach
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8 posted on 07/24/2002 5:42:10 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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9 posted on 07/24/2002 5:48:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Tropoljac
"The speak and Indo-European language."

They all speak an 'Indo-European' language. The Basque in Spain are the exception. (...and perhaps a small Finnish group)

10 posted on 07/24/2002 5:51:50 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"We wish to caution the great powers against further interference in the affairs of this region and against the exacerbation of the flames of war."

This from the President of the country that backs Hizbollah, Hamas, Al Qaeda and super-terrorists Imad Mugniyah. They've held terror summits in Teheran.

The Euro-weenies are getting it wrong again. Khatami may have started off as a 'reformer', but he's been totally impotent is actually reforming. He's now backing the hardline Ayatollahs. Bush is backing the reformers in the Iranian Parliament, who are battling the Ayatollahs and Mullahs. The Euro-weenie got it wrong again. The Euro-weenies have the heads so far up the butts of the elites in any country, the can't see nor hear a thing.

11 posted on 07/24/2002 5:52:03 PM PDT by Kermit
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To: blam
They wouldn't be that stupid, would they?

I doubt it. Syria's antique military would just be so many targets, and Israel is poised to take them out as it is. As for Iran, they will play the waiting game. Publically they will scream, but privately they will be happy to see Saddam go. Of course after Saddam is gone they will covertly do everything they can to prevent us forming a stable pro-western government in Iraq. They would love to see the country end up in anarchy, and the US pull out, leaving them the dominent power in the Gulf.

13 posted on 07/24/2002 6:07:23 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Tropoljac
They're still Muslims, and they still can't be trusted....not the one's in power at least.
14 posted on 07/25/2002 8:09:56 AM PDT by My2Cents
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To: blam
"We wish to caution the great powers against further interference in the affairs of this region and against the exacerbation of the flames of war." I guess we will have to bombard them with our great secret weapom "MTV".

15 posted on 09/13/2002 6:49:08 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Note: this topic is from 7-24-2002. Thanks blam. Before we had WikiLeaks, we had FreeRepublic. :')
The decision follows a fierce battle between Washington hardliners and Colin Powell, the secretary of state, who had argued that President Mohammad Khatami's reform programme should be encouraged... A senior official told the Washington Post that Mr Khatami and his supporters were "too weak, ineffective and not serious about fulfilling their promises" and could not outflank Ayatollah Khamenei. In January, Mr Bush identified Iran, Iraq and North Korea as part of an "axis of evil". Since then, an internal debate has raged about how best to undermine the ayatollah. Nearly a fortnight ago the president signalled his conclusion by issuing a statement saying: "The Iranian people voted for political and economic reform, yet their voices are not being listened to by the unelected people who are the real rulers of Iran." ...Tony Blair has argued privately that lines to Mr Khatami should be kept open. Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, was criticised by some Bush advisers for visiting Teheran last September to try to enlist Iran in the war against terrorism... Mr Bush and President Vladimir Putin have been discussing how best to prevent nuclear know-how being passed to Iran. But the US official said: "The difficulty is how you stop bits and pieces of Russia's government and state-owned enterprises making money out of this. The problem is seven or eight levels down in Russia's missile or nuclear establishment."

16 posted on 12/10/2010 8:43:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

Wow, I thought I went back in time...


17 posted on 12/10/2010 8:48:17 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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