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JPEG Committee Looking Into Patent Claims Made By Forgent Networks Inc.
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Posted on 07/23/2002 9:11:41 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist

Concerning Recent Patent Claims

Considerable interest has been expressed in the views of the JPEG committee concerning claims made by Forgent Networks Inc on their web site concerning intellectual property that Forgent have obtained through their acquisition of Compression Labs Inc. They refer specifically to US Patent 4,698,672, which refers amongst other claims to technology which might be applied in run length coding, found in many technologies including the implementations of a baseline version of ISO/IEC 10918-1, commonly referred to as JPEG.

The committee has examined these claims briefly, and at present believes that prior art exists in areas in which the patent might claim application to ISO/IEC 10918-1 in its baseline form. The committee have also become aware that other organisations including Philips, and Lucent may also be claiming some elements of intellectual property that might be applied to the original JPEG and JBIG (IS 11544 standards). As a response to this, the JPEG committee will be collecting, through its new web site (to be launched shortly) a substantial repository of prior art and it invites submissions, particularly where the content may be applied to claims of intellectual property. A note will be placed on the web site shortly explaining the process for such submissions.

This effort will take some time to organise, but the JPEG committee hope to have it in place prior to its next meeting in Shanghai in October 2002.

It has always been a strong goal of the JPEG committee that its standards should be implementable in their baseline form without payment of royalty and license fees, and the committee would like to record their disappointment that some organisations appear to be working in conflict with this goal. Considerable time has been spent in committee in attempting to either arrange licensing on these terms, or in avoiding existing intellectual property, and many hundreds of organisations and academic communities have supported us in our work.

The up and coming JPEG 2000 standard has been prepared along these lines, and agreement reached with over 20 large organisations holding many patents in this area to allow use of their intellectual property in connection with the standard without payment of license fees or royalties.

Richard Clark

JPEG Webmaster and editor

Committee member since JPEG's formation (and before…).

Reviewed and approved at the 27th WG1 Boston Meeting, July 19 2002


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KEYWORDS: compressionlabsinc; forgentnetworksinc; jpeg

1 posted on 07/23/2002 9:11:41 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Lazamataz; Registered; deport
Why hasn't this story gotten more press coverage?
2 posted on 07/23/2002 9:15:02 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Torie; one_particular_harbour
Have either of you heard about this?

I think that this story is very important...why doesn't anyone else?

3 posted on 07/23/2002 9:48:41 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Patriot7
Have you heard about this?
4 posted on 07/23/2002 9:50:33 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Finding patent truth in JPEG claim
5 posted on 07/23/2002 10:25:36 PM PDT by DB
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
It has been discussed for the past few days. Did you do a search?
6 posted on 07/23/2002 10:28:40 PM PDT by Quicksilver
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
I think I saw it in my local paper last week. It said Sony had already signed on and may have paid a fee.I don't know how true this report was but the papers web site is www.times-standard.com.
7 posted on 07/23/2002 10:36:35 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: FreedominJesusChrist

No idea but here's a few other postings of articles about the topic over the past few days.......




9 posted on 07/24/2002 8:52:09 AM PDT by deport
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Damn greedy lawyers will be the death of the Internet.

Anyone notice how the radical changes in "intellectual property" policy during the x42 Administration has so heavely enriched the trial lawyers at the expense of the consumer?

How has society at large been benefited with new advancements compared to the chilling of the creative process now that inventors (and even consumers) have to be lawyers to figure out if they are breaking the law by default?

The concept of public domain has for all intents and purposes become extinct, but patents seem to be immortal, if you have enough legal horsepower behind you. X42 ceeded yet again our entrepreneural heritege to euro-socialist stagnation.
10 posted on 07/24/2002 9:06:36 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: deport; anymouse
Oh, I hadn't seen this before on Freerepublic. Thanks for all the links though.

If Forgent's claims are legitimate, do you think they will only go after the big companies? Or will they also go after moderately successful smaller computer companies who may have used some elements of this technology in software programs that they might have developed, say for scanners?

11 posted on 07/24/2002 9:35:37 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: anymouse
I think it is plain ridiculous that these people are hollering about the patent now, especially with only 2 more years to go on it.

This isn't the time to start a commotion now. For the good of the country, they should just let the patent run for 2 more years and just not say anything.

12 posted on 07/24/2002 9:37:57 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: tubebender
Yeah, they agreed to pay a fee of $15 million. I know that a lot of smaller, successful computer companies have used this technology too, but they can't afford to pay fees like that.
13 posted on 07/24/2002 9:49:41 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: DB
Thanks for the link, it was quite informative.

Why these people are hollering about it now, beats me.

They just want to profit off of other people's hard work and ingenuity.

14 posted on 07/24/2002 10:03:52 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Why these people are hollering about it now, beats me. They just want to profit off of other people's hard work and ingenuity.

You just answered your own question.

15 posted on 07/24/2002 10:55:10 PM PDT by supercat
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
JPEG to me seems to have long ago wandered into the Public Domain category. I doubt they would get that far in court.
16 posted on 07/27/2002 2:08:58 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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