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To: Grampa Dave
Looks like Biscut and Squire Peak are right in your stomping grounds, Dave. That so?
10 posted on 07/23/2002 8:24:02 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie; Archie Bunker on steroids; AuntB; marsh2; forester; WaterDragon; blackie; ...
Carry posted, "Looks like Biscut and Squire Peak are right in your stomping grounds, Dave. That so?

Thanks to the no roads into this area, even elk have a hard time stomping in that area.

I have been watching these enviral thugs seize this beautiful area and close the roads into it for the past 10 years.

Then they have tried several times to use The Endangered Species Act to stop all steelhead and salmon fishing on the Rogue River below where the Illinois flows into the Rogue.

This was all based on typical Bravo Sierra phoney fish science. Those Illinois steelhead entered the Rogue and probably were headed up stream in the Illinois River in less than 1 to 2 days. I have caught and released Steelhead in the Rogue where the Illinois Steelhead paused to make their trip upstream. They were brillant colored and if the protected seals hadn't scarred them, they were in fantastic condition. They were in better condition than any steelhead I have seen caught and released in Kali or SW Oregon for 10 years.

The Illinois is a completely wild river and very dangerous for most people to even take a kayak down. When the fall/winter rains sent their signals to the Illinois Steelhead in the mouth of the Rogue, they swam upstream like rockets to head up the Illinois. The only danger they had were the protected seals all the way up the Rogue to and past the mouth of the Illinois.

I can remember trying to explain this to some guides who thought that they were envirals in Gold Beach, that there was no problem with the steelhead. That the envirals were trying to put all of them out of work. Fortunately a couple knew and were willing to listen.

If they had closed the lower Rogue to salmon and steelhead fishing, Gold Beach would be basically a ghost town now. Next they would have closed fishing on the Chetco to devastate Brookings and then all rivers /streams to Bandon. Next it would have been the Smith River/Klamath Rivers in Kali to the Eel south of Eureka.

Since the Spotted Owl Rural cleansing, most logging from the Eel in Kali to the Bandon Oregon area had been eliminated, and this left the game fishing industry that caters to fanatics like me. If they could stop that tourist industry the rural cleansing from Eureka to Bandon would have been incredible.

I really believe that last year's Klamath Basin attempted rural cleansing was an effort by these Druids to control the water going from Klamath Lake into the Klamath as it flows from Oregon to and through Kali. Then, they would have rurally cleansed every farmer and rancher down stream on the Klamath from Klamath Lake to the Pacific Ocean in the name of salmon and steelhead. Of course no tree dead or alive could be used by any American.

18 posted on 07/23/2002 9:29:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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