[Jeff Head]

I didn't brush aside the election. They are important and people are elected or not elected for a number of reasons ... foreign policy, economy and the stand on moral issues, etc. I simply stated a fact. They are immaterial to the truths and morals upon which the principles of morality are based ... irrespective of who is President. Those rpinciples would remain true if not one single American practised them. Thankfully, scores of millions still do.

You have much to learn regarding what really makes America strong IMHO. Hope you can pass it on to your friends in Beijing for they will miscaculate terribly if they proceed with such a distorted view.

But we have discussed this ad infinitum.

Refer to my post number 184 oin this thread for any further discussion on this issue.

Again, adieu.

[AIG]

Your moral principles are one thing, but unless they get expressed in reality through winning an election, they don't have any real impact in a democratic society. Remember, the Founders set up a democratic system so that yours and others' moral or other views could be expressed and maybe realized. And don't u understand that elections are the direct result of the moral principles of which you speak that guided the Founders in constructing America's system of government? So there's a direct link between the moral principles you honor and elections. And insofar as elections go, Bush Sr. already lost one presidency because he neglected the economy and Bush Jr. may lose another presidency for the same reason. You just have to understand that economics is often the central issue in elections and politics, regardless of your moral principles that only you may have, given the greater importance Americans seem to place on economics.

[AIG]

In other words, you can live in a vacuum all you want, but some people prefer to call a spade a spade.

[AIG]

Bush Jr.'s popularity is declining as we speak because he is not doing enough to save the economy. Be aloof about this fact if you want if you don't mind President Gore or Lieberman in 2004.

[It'salmosttolate]

Jeff, you never took me up on my proposal to buy your book IF you could show me text from your book showing that Prescot Bush is the Chairman of the Board of the US-China Chamber of Commerce (usccc.org)?

Is it possible it is not in your book?