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JPEGs are not free: Patent holder pursues IP grab
The Register USA ^ | July 18, 2002 | Andrew Orlowski

Posted on 07/18/2002 7:37:27 PM PDT by JameRetief

By Andrew Orlowski in London
Posted: 07/18/2002 at 11:35 EST

A video conferencing company based in Austin, Texas says it's going to pursue royalties on the transmission of JPEG images.

And it's already found a licensee: Sony Corporation.

Formerly known as VTEL, Forgent Networks acquired Compression Labs in 1997, acquiring this patent into the bargain. The patent claim was filed in 1986 but Compression Labs never pursued royalties.

Forgent last week declared that it has "the sole and exclusive right to use and license all the claims" under the patent and is seeking a deal wherever JPEGs are transmitted, with the exception of satellite broadcasting.

It specifies browsers, PDAs, digital cameras, phones and scanners in its 'clarification'. So the IP claim extends to any client device which receives a JPEG image.

Forgent's most recent SEC filing states that Sony Corporation paid the company $15 million for licensing Patent 4,698,672: a significant portion of the $22 million Forgent booked as revenue in the quarter.

In its the filing, Forgent adds:

"The Company is pursuing additional license agreements
with other companies from multiple industries; however, there can be no assurance that additional licenses can be obtained or, if obtained will be on
similar favorable terms."

Forgent had yet to respond to our enquiries at time of writing. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: browsers; jpeg; license; patents
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1 posted on 07/18/2002 7:37:27 PM PDT by JameRetief
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To: JameRetief
Could you show us the library of JPEG images that they want to "protect"....?

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk...
2 posted on 07/18/2002 7:40:15 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: JameRetief
If they can get a royalty on every digital device sold as well as every jpeg sent through email, whats that worth, about $10bazillion?
3 posted on 07/18/2002 7:40:48 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
It won't happen. If they try to charge for the use of JPEGs, everyone will stop using JPEGs just like everyone dropped GIFs when Apple (?) started charging licensing fees. A new "free" image format will be used.
4 posted on 07/18/2002 7:43:48 PM PDT by JameRetief
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To: JameRetief
A video conferencing company based in Austin, Texas says it's going to pursue royalties on the transmission of JPEG images.

Does this mean I have to return all that porn?

5 posted on 07/18/2002 7:44:05 PM PDT by Black Powder
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To: Black Powder
Does this mean I have to return all that porn?

Not at all, send it over this way, I'll keep it safe for ya..

;)

6 posted on 07/18/2002 7:45:08 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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BTW..I find something funny here..I remember JPEG standing for Joint Partners Encryption Group, it seems now the name has changed to Joint Photographic Experts Group. Am I missing something here? Also, I recall this type of thread about 6 weeks ago, someone had mentioned the many, many encoding types under JPEG; could it be that this company is going after a particular encryption extension of JPEG?
7 posted on 07/18/2002 7:49:39 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: unix
Scratch my last on the naming of JPEG...was wrong and thinking of something completly different...< /apology>
8 posted on 07/18/2002 7:50:57 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: JameRetief
I have a JPEG they can have of me, bent over pointing to a part of my anatomy they can kiss. Guess I'll have to either pay for it, or email it to them.
9 posted on 07/18/2002 7:59:05 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: JameRetief
This reminds me of all those inventions where royalties are not paid; like the thermometer, or the hanger. I also don't think it could practically be enforced.
10 posted on 07/18/2002 8:01:55 PM PDT by In Search of Freedom
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To: JameRetief
Once the Genie is out of the bottle, it is oh-so-difficult to get it back in. Another image format would be invented as a get-around before you know it and their patent would be useless.

Can you imagine if, say, the inventors of the VHS videocassette demanded that everyone who uses the format pay them royalties? Good luck.
11 posted on 07/18/2002 8:06:38 PM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: JameRetief
JPEG this.
12 posted on 07/18/2002 8:06:45 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Wait a minute - why should you be paying THEM????? I took that durn picture - if you're gonna pay anyone it durn better be me.

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. oops wrong thread-sorry

14 posted on 07/18/2002 8:08:20 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: JameRetief
Ok... everyone on internet will have to email back ALL of their jpeg's. All at once. At the same time. Lets say August 1, 2002. 8:00 am eastern time. They should be able to their email servers unclogged by ohhhhhh... Christmas.

I wonder it they will also try to collect on "thermally enhanced air."

 

15 posted on 07/18/2002 8:08:58 PM PDT by TLI
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To: JameRetief
It won't happen. If they try to charge for the use of JPEGs, everyone will stop using JPEGs just like everyone dropped GIFs when Apple (?) started charging licensing fees. A new "free" image format will be used.

It wasn't Apple. It was CompuServe that invented the GIF format.

16 posted on 07/18/2002 8:18:47 PM PDT by chaosagent
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To: Gabz
You promised to never sell those. Now everyone is going to know that my rear looks just like Bill Clinton's face.
17 posted on 07/18/2002 8:21:35 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Tall_Texan
I'll send all my VHS cassettes back to whoever wants them. Now that I have a recordable DVD system at home, who cares.
18 posted on 07/18/2002 8:22:54 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: chaosagent
That was it. I thought it was another company besides Apple, but I wasn't sure. Thanks for the correction.
19 posted on 07/18/2002 8:23:11 PM PDT by JameRetief
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To: JameRetief
Lastime I checked PNG is a new format that people can use. It is already supported I believe by both browsers and is open source so none owns it.
20 posted on 07/18/2002 8:24:51 PM PDT by Brush_Your_Teeth
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