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To: blau993
Pacific Lumber settled the wrongful death suit out of court. And as I pointed out, these people were playing cat and mouse, which is an active resistamce tactic that falls into the realm of non-violent civil disobedience.

I have absolutely no qualms calling people who burn and distroy what they are, namely domestic terrorists. But the hyperbolic decent into such retoric as labeling everyone resisting logging as a terrorist doesn't make them such.

I met david's Mom and family at the memorial service for him in Arcada, California. They are decent, politically middle of the road people from Texas, and David has no history of violence, or distructive behavior.

Now, one can most definately sympathize with a frustrated faller who loses work hours to forest protest. But when he verbally threatens to use a falling tree as a weapon, then does so, that is the person who looks like a terrorist, not Davis Chain.

I am not trying to pick on you, but I do care about keeping things in perspective on this issue.

I have worked down in that area for Simpson picking fir cones, and I know some fine, hard working logging people down in that part of the country. But even many Wise Use people will not strongly defend Charles Hurwitz, Maxxon, and Pacific Lumber in light of their bad history of logging violations, monkeyshines with everything from worker's retirement fund money to their treatment of workers.

I do not like Pacific Lumber's owner of current management, and apart from political activities, I cannot see calling David Chain a terrorist anymore then an operation rescue activist is one for playing cat and mouse at an abortion clinic.

46 posted on 07/21/2002 3:52:39 PM PDT by Glutton
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To: Glutton
My Dear Glutton,

Gypsy was an agent for Earth First. That is a terrorist organization that has, among other things, performed "tree spikings." Those, in case you don't know, are designed to maim or kill tree cutters or saw mill workers. Nice folks!

Maybe Gypsy's folks are nice people. I know lots of nice people who have screwy kids. Gypsy was engaged in an act of irresponsible trespassing and got himself killed as a result. He was no hero.

Darryl Cherney and his Earth First cadres are not cute little bunny rabbits flitting about in the forests to protect the innocent chipmunks and spotted owls. They are dedicated Marxists. They hate our system of government. They hate our way of life. They want to bring America to a screeching halt. They prey on the young and the feeble-minded to man their barricades for them. If you haven't figured this out yet, I feel sorry for you.

As for poor little Butterfly. Take a peek at her bio, and note in particular the traffic accident and the severe head injury some years back. That says lots about her willingness to spend two years up in a tree and the ability of the Earth First and other terrorists to keep her there long after she had pleaded to come down.

You need seriously to do some thinking about the real world. Also, some attention to spelling and grammar would help.

Blau993

47 posted on 07/21/2002 7:06:04 PM PDT by blau993
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