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To: Prodigal Son
It's not really what we think of as communism, but that's not necessarily good. When Lenin took the reins of power in 1916, I think he envisioned something similar to participatory economics - essentially, worker-managed factories. In fact, the more intelligent factory owners fled very quickly to the west, leaving nobody but workers!

So if it was possible to find a workers' paradise without management, well, it would have happened then, with the aid and encouragement of the state.

But it didn't; the economy collapsed, and the new Soviet government quickly went to repression so they could eke out something vaguely resembling bare survival.

That didn't work so great either, so they went to NEP. If NEP had been allowed to continue at its natural pace, Russia would have turned capitalist in a few years. Since that was not part of the plan, Stalin shot it down and the die was cast for the cruel and repressive system we think of as Communism.

Incidentally, I wanted to drop Mr Albert a line with questions, but noticed there was no email link anywhere on his web sites. I guess he doesn't like discussion of his ideas, which I suppose shouldn't be all that surprising.

Finally, Ayn Rand's account in Atlas Shrugged of a factory run in exactly this way was brutally realistic, and entirely plausible. Created out of brutal experience in the Soviet Union, of course. She doesn't have to imagine this stuff; she lived it.

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127 posted on 07/16/2002 7:51:32 AM PDT by daviddennis
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To: daviddennis
Yeah, I always thought her explanation via the fictional methaphor of the factory story (where Galt worked) to be a pretty graphic demonstration of communism.

I don't necessarily associate communism with Soviet Russia but with Marx. When I think communism I think abolition of private property, worker ownership of the means of production, rule by worker committee etc. That's basically what this dimwit- and he is incredibly dim if he thinks his (Marx's) system would work- is advocating. I note that he sells his books (snakeoil) for a nice little sum. I do hope he's redistribuiting all that wealth- hmmm... How does it go? From each according to his ability...

145 posted on 07/16/2002 1:15:46 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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