[Illbay]

I'm not going to bother with a quote. YOU read it. Anyone who isn't a "captain of industry" or "giant among men" is just fodder for the mill of the superior.

Her intense worship of self breeds such contempt. It's innate, and it's the reason people like you always come off sounding like Nazis ("Silence, Schweinhund"!)

[Jason Kauppinen]

No Illbay, you're the one sounding like a Nazi by 1) Not being able to back up your ludicrous claims, and 2) Automatically assuming that anyone who disagrees with said ludicrous claims must be an uncritical Rand-robot cultist follower. As far as telling you to shut up; it was the second of two choices. The first being, putting it more succinctly, put up. So again, since you obviously have such a clear understanding of whatever Rand was advocating, prove your claim. Or not. If Rand's writings were merely the product of an irrational cultist weirdo, then a direct quote shouldn't be too hard to find, now, should it? Since you are so obviously not an irrational whacko; a simple task like producing evidence to support a claim shouldn't be that difficult. The fact that the burden of proof lies with the person making the argument is pretty basic as well and probably not beyond your understanding either. But, perhaps, you're not interested in making an argument. Perhaps you just want to slander a writer you disagree with and post distortions and outright fabrications of their work. I'm sure the Nazis used similar tactics within their propiganda.

[chudogg]

I'm not going to bother with a quote. YOU read it. Anyone who isn't a "captain of industry" or "giant among men" is just fodder for the mill of the superior.

Her intense worship of self breeds such contempt. It's innate, and it's the reason people like you always come off sounding like Nazis ("Silence, Schweinhund"!)

I think Rand's point was merely that nobody has a right to someone elses own money and property. Now their are going to be inequalities of wealth, but the non-producers do not have any right to someones else's simply because of that.

I dont see how this compares with national socialism. In fact i see it as just the opposite. The Nazi's used the power of the state to grant who were going to be the haves and who would be the have nots. Under Rands view point, the haves would be those who produced, and the have nots would be those who did not. The state was left completly out of the picture, even when it could benefit you. As in the example of Henry Rearden going on trial for not selling his metal to the government agency. Rearden would not sell his metal to the government or collect subsidies for not selling it on the private sector because he stood up for a principle. Even though he would of made a killing, it would go against the philosphy of selling your property/ exchanging goods, for a profit.

And i think we have a word to decribe people who dont believe that a person has the sole right to their own property. Oh thats right, we call them communist.