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To: Jaded
Not according to some here. To hear some people tell it, if the police accuse you of something, you must be a dirtbag in the first place. Even if you didn't do it, there must still be something wrong with you or the cops wouldn't have focused on you. Being "creepy" might be enough reason, or sweating, or cooperating, or not cooperating. And on and on.

The American justice system is in deep trouble, if this board is representative of the rest of the country.
446 posted on 07/14/2002 9:14:35 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
It is, and the drug war, as much as anything is to blame. The drug war being the modern incarnation of the Temperance movement, which replaced individual responsibilty with "social" laws that restricted activites and mere possesion of things on the grounds that those activities and things are sometimes, even often, dangerous, while leaving no allowance for appropriate use by responsible people.

Are prisons are full of people who have never committed a felony -- by the truer and older understanding of what that word means.

Here in this case, mere possesion of pornography -- with no evidence, testimony as to how it was used -- is compelling enough for many to hang a man. We used to distinquish violations of soical mores from criminal felonies, but now the chamberpot also serves as the soup pot -- in our criminal law, every "social" violation is in it.

"Temperance" meant that the individual was subsumed to society, and failure to toe a current social line means one is felonious, that social "feelings" weigh more than evidence and the testimony of reliable witnesses.

Twas, once in a golden era in that regard, that the individual was king of his own actions and responsibility. That other men and women respected the individual, even when he colored outside of the normal social lines. As long as no violence was done, no contracts broken, no thefts occurred. No longer.

Coloring outside the lines is now adequate indication of evil. Yes, Mr. Westerfield, you shal be hung for closing your curtains, for driving around at whimsy, for leaving you house out -- those are serious social violations, Mr. Wesetrfield and society can no longer abide your life within it.

447 posted on 07/14/2002 9:34:15 AM PDT by bvw
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To: MizSterious
There's a coarsening of character and behavior. I've seen gross public behavior in the last year or so. Those "survivor" type shows are touching something scaly and nasty in a lot of people - and they'd buy tickets to "smackdown" exhibitions where people really got hurt, and unpopular people got voted into serious pain, if they could. IMO, but I'm probably not wrong.
493 posted on 07/14/2002 5:36:49 PM PDT by 185JHP
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