White Supremacists to March Through Georgia Town

Reuters ^

[RCW2001]

— GAINESVILLE, Ga. (Reuters) - A group of white supremacists said Wednesday its members and sympathizers would march through this Georgia town this weekend to protest an influx of Hispanic immigrants in the area.

The National Alliance, a West Virginia-based group that advocates the establishment of all-white "living areas" in the United States and other Western nations, said the march on Saturday would focus attention on the links between illegal immigration and gang-related crime in the Gainesville area.

About 30 percent of Gainesville's population of 27,242 is Hispanic, according to the 2000 Census. Racial tensions in the town, located about 50 miles northeast of Atlanta, have risen in the past year after a number of drug-related crimes blamed on Mexican gangs.

"Gainesville has been swamped with uncontrolled immigration and we told them last year that they were going to have problems with gangs," said Chester Doles, a coordinator for the National Alliance in Lumpkin County, north of Gainesville.

Doles added that the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States had fueled greater interest in the group's anti-immigration message and activities. "The local citizens are responding more than last year," Doles said.

The march is due to begin at 8 a.m. EDT on Saturday and is expected to last about an hour. Local law enforcement authorities and community leaders are telling residents to stay at home during the rally.

[FreedomFriend]

I'm referring to that individual comment, of which you were speaking of Chad Brock. Two different things.

[FreedomFriend]

I'm curious, do you have a similar opinion of China Town?

[Doctor Stochastic]

What do you mean? What about China Town? Is a "whites only" organization marching against China Town? (Which China Town?)

[FreedomFriend]

My point is, do you find China Town to be racist?

[Mark Turbo]

Tim McVeigh.....who killed hundreds in a bid to bring the writings of some White Supremacist novel to life (the book, i forget its name, strived to show how the attack of a government hub would lead to anarchy and chaos, that would elad to the rise of of renewed White 'Bortherhood' and 'cleanse' the nation of America)! And the ironic thing is that most of the dead were white..... and that that act just made more people see how stupid these groups are!

The Turner Diaries? I think that's the book you mean.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Do you mean the name? Or do you mean that there are Chinese areas that exclude non-Chinese? The first, no. The second, yes. Racist, but not necessarily illegal. I don't get the point.

[FreedomFriend]

Well, you implied that white people living in white areas is racist, so I wanted to know your take on Chinese living amongst their own. One thing to ponder, though. If God placed us in different places on the globe, isn't it natural for different groups of people to want to live among people who look, think, and act like them. After all, housing patterns reveal people's preferences, and it has always been like this. Sure, there are a few exceptions, but by and large, this remains the norm.

I see nothing wrong with Chinese wishing to live among Chinese. I find it to be perfectly natural. The same with any other group. The problem I find is that many people think that it is okay for minority groups to live amongst their own group, but if white people seek out the same preferences, they're brandished as the lowest of low. It appears to be a double standard, especially among something that appears to be a natural living condition.

While I do not condone groups such as the one mentioned in the article, for the obvious reasons of blatant racial hatred, I often wonder how much more diversity this country can take before the whole system collapses. I don't think I've ever heard of a diverse society being able to stay together without some type of chaos. Mind you, I'm not talking racially, but culturally, though racial obstacles are very difficult for people to overcome, on the collective. Cultural obstacles are next to zero of overcoming, collectively.

Now, being that immigration was mostly limited to European nations for the bulk of American history, of which a distinct western European culture developed, what are you to expect when the world "comes a knockin'", changing the very fabric of a nation, and all that has built up around it. My point is, you're going to have conflict. It's compounded when you have the "multicultural mogals" chanting, "you can keep your own culture", etc.

I don't want to be skeptical, for I hope that everything turns out fine, but given trends, history, and social ramifications on the government, elections, schools, etc., it appears that the future may be dim if we continue to allow immigration from non-western countries. Japan is a first world country, with a mix of western institutions, thus I don't see any problem. I'm mostly referring to third world, non-western dictatorships, etc.

Again, look at the argument, rationally.

[BubbaJunebug]

Does having a Brother in Law that is the VP of Human Resources for one of the larger processors help you?

[Puppage]

Whatever your view, or opinion is on this "group", it is EXACTLY what tolerance is based on. If it Wasn't...tolerance would NOT be an issue. With that said, I am not comparing the 2 groups as equals. However, there are many, many people in the US that feel as strongly as YOU do about the white supremacist but towards the gay life style. Your likes or beliefs are not the issue, HOWEVER your ability to allow others THEIR opinions, whether you agree with it or not IS tolerance. But, as we ALL know....tolerance only goes 1 way, and that's the liberal democrat way.

[HELLRAISER II]

I hate it when somebody takes what I say out of context. Yes I
did mention the Cubans by name, but I didn't say that they were
Liberal Democrats or anything demeaning. What I did say was
that there was a mass exodus from Cuba with ten's of thousands of
immigrants landing on the shores of Florida. Perhaps some of
them did become outstanding citizens with the right political
philosophy. But that doesn't change the fact that they came here
illegally.

[HELLRAISER II]

Different times require different actions. Listen i'm of English, Irish & Cherokee Indian descent so i'm a perfect example of diversity. However times have changed and regardless of what race I am, I'm frigging American. Now anybody that want's to come here through the proper channels, I have no problem with because currently the law say's their allowed. But on 9/11 our Country changed therefore changing the way we perceive the rest of the World. That's not our fault, it's theirs.

[RWG]

My tax bill means that I am a law abiding citizen with a vested interest in the standards observed by this society. The mantra these days seems to be who are you to judge. Well, I am one of the ones who provides for the illegals and others through the money the government confiscates from me so I have bought the right to judge. If too many are afraid to assert their duty to judge and then to act on those judgements I am not. From that old song, if you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything.

[GreenEggsHam]

My tax bill means that I am a law abiding citizen with a vested interest in the standards observed by this society. The mantra these days seems to be who are you to judge. Well, I am one of the ones who provides for the illegals and others through the money the government confiscates from me so I have bought the right to judge. If too many are afraid to assert their duty to judge and then to act on those judgements I am not. From that old song, if you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything.
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RWG - I agree, somewhat. Although your tax bill doesn't necessarily qualify you as a law abiding citizen, I agree that taxpayers have a vested interest in their country. I prefer the word "discern" over judge, but that's just me. The important point is that your judgment is not necessarily viewed by all as *the* judgment. My two centavos...

[Poohbah]

I'm waiting for the inevitable "the book is being taken out of context" remarks that will come from your assessment.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Why would you assume that because someone is from another country and didn't go through proper legal channels to get here that they are in a gang or are asking for your assistance?

Yeah, your right, why would anyone assume that? Hummm? Where is the pattern? I don't see any correlation here?? Good question!

[spetznaz]

I am actually in total agreement with you when it comes to the topic of tolerance....and furthermore i concur that lately 'tolerance' has seemed to be only pertinent to certain groups (eg it seems to only apply to gay right groups). Thus we have no argument when it comes to that ....even to the subject of finding the homosexual lifestyle abhorent. After all i find it rather decadent and rife with moral and spiritual decay....however i have to tolerate it (as a good citizen and erudite individual) even if i do not want it anywhere near me.

However my other point was that the so called 'White Supremacists' are another matter whatsoever! These are people who claim protection under the banner of 'tolerance and free speech' yet go ahead and show no tolerace whatsoever and try to stiffle even 'free life' among people of other races. To them being Black or Jewish or Asian or...... (fill in the blank) is something befitting verbal vitriol, physical beatings or even death! They claim that THEY should be tolerated when THEY themselves show no tolerance!

And although i truly detest GLAAD, the Rainbow Coalition and other gay rights groups i can easily tolerate them because when they pass through my community they at the very least do not go around calling people (even white people who do to agree with them) names and threatening the use of violence! 'Supremacist' groups on the other hand seem to have little acumen for civilized debate and thus often resort to sporadic unabated violence.

And i am very willing to tolerate those with different views from me .....that is not even a small problem for me. HOWEVER when people resort to violence and threats of violence, and commit acts of sheer atrocity, THEN i find it HARD to show any modicum of TOLERANCE towards them since THEY themselves have decided NOT to be tolerant themselves! I can tolerate their vitriolic language and even laugh at it (because i find it hilarious when a 40 something in dire financial straits and little education calls a 23 yr old African-American with an ivy education and an extremely favorable financial situation 'inferior'). Thus i can easily tolerate their silly rants! Just as i can tolerate the speech of gay activists ......and shamans saying we should all concentrate and call upon 'beams of light' to come 'uplift' us and take us to the 'sixth dimension.' All this is speech ...and thus whether i find it silly or ludicrous i can still go ahead and tolerate it (even as i laugh under my breath).

However when violence arises i stop tolerating the perpetrators! And this applies to everyone ....which means if the Democratic Party, GLAAD, the Local Sewing Club or any other groups started tying up people to wire fences and setting them on fire while they were still alive i would rapidly STOP showing any iota of tolerance to them. When people start dying my tolerance goes out the window. Just as i am not going to show any 'tolerance' to Usama and his murderous Jehadis i will also not show any tolerance to any person who claims 'superiority' and proceeds to drag another man i Texas and literally tear his limbs apart, or chain another in Oklahoma just to set him on fire! Tolerance does NOT apply to such animals (yes, i called them that ....at least the ones who decide beatings and killings are the way) Instead of tolerance what they deserve is PRISON TERMS!

And i am not intolerant ....i am just not willing to let murderous actions pass by saying 'i will be tolerant.' Honestly i do not care if they marched or not ...it does not affect me in anyway or form. Actually i find it hilarious seeing grown men in Walmart sheets claiming to be 'superior' yet having nothing whatsoever to feel superior about! To me it is a joke ...and i can easily tolerate that. However when people start getting beaten up and even killed; or at the very least subjected to threats and violent insinuations .....then i stop tolerating and start getting angry. And seeking legal channels to lock such animals behind bars.

And just in the same way i am not willing to be tolerant of Usama and try to 'understand' him for killing several thousand Americans in cold blood i will also not be willing to be tolerant of Timothy McVeigh and try to 'understand' him for killing several hundred Americans in his quest to fulfill the supremacist writings of the Turner Diaries!

And should GLAAD start killing people or even beating them up i will also cease to be tolerant of them .....and that applies to any group or affiliation. Even my friends and family members! I am very understanding and tolerant ....but start hurting others and the game's up!

And that is what i was trying to elucidate in my post no. 56.

[GreenEggsHam]

Why would you assume that because someone is from another country and didn't go through proper legal channels to get here that they are in a gang or are asking for your assistance?

Yeah, your right, why would anyone assume that? Hummm? Where is the pattern? I don't see any correlation here?? Good question!

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Well as is standard fare for amateur political debate, I'll take my small personal experience and apply it to the larger situation and call it logic: I've known four illegal aliens, three of them quite well, over the years and not one of them asked for assistance or was in a gang. I'm just challenging sweeping generalizations and assumptions and asking someone about how/why they developed a particular point of view, but maybe in your view that makes me stupid.

[Puppage]

I was just using the gay agenda as an example. Just because the WS Groups don't show tolerance in return, for whomever, does not make them any less deserving of it. As for their violent behavior, I am in complete agreement with you. I'm not askiing for tolerance of their actions, just their views, which I also find disgusting to say the least. So, it seems we're on the same page here, wouldn't you agree?

[Flyer]

A group of white supremacists said Wednesday its members and sympathizers would march through this Georgia town this weekend to protest an influx of Hispanic immigrants in the area.

This is going to be a big step backwards for the rest of us concerned about our unsecure borders. THIS will make the media. Jeez. . .

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[Deport Billary]

That's sad, and the same thing is happening up this way. Mexican gang violence has skyrocketed in many small towns. They are destroying the place. Several months ago a dumpy hispanic tried to break into my window while I was asleep. He was still prying the window when I pulled the blinds. Our complex is suffering from a wave of car breakins as well. The wealthy RINOs don't seem to care because it isn't in their neighborhood.