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To: Rokke
You seem like a relatively intelligent fellow, with slight leanings towards the MO of one Elmer Asmodeous Barr, whose main defense of the NTSB debacle seems to be calling people tin-foil hats, missile huggers and quoting the testimony of William Tobin ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

You seem to have little conception of what is involved in an unbiased, professional investigation. You make constant references to the official conclusions, which you use to justify the fact that NTSB was less than thorough in it's efforts. You can't say, because the official line is no evidence of foul play, that the 30-knot track, or the id of N776 is irrelevant, that IS circular. Until you see this main flaw in your reasoning, it will be difficult, time consuming, and most likely fruitless to continue our discussions.

I for one would like to continue. I have an initial impression of you at least, as being someone who has a reasonably open mind.

Let me state for the record my position, for what it is worth.

I don't buy the "official position".......I don't believe the investigation was thorough, I don't believe a "spark" of unknown origin was the causal factor. That being said, maybe we can continue?

You stated you have spent much time reading the NTSB report, then you say you don't have access to Ex. 3-E, can you explain that to me?

After you do that, can answer this?.......Do you have access to exhibit 18-A or text portions of the MSSG Report?

If you do, I will point you to an "interesting" anomaly.
56 posted on 07/27/2002 2:29:30 PM PDT by JohnFiorentino
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To: JohnFiorentino
You seem to have little conception of what is involved in an unbiased, professional investigation. That is an ironic statement as I have actually participated in several and have even completed military accident investigation training. Conversally, most of the characters (note: this doesn't mean you) who insist there is a grand conspiracy within the TWA 800 investigation rely on reports from the likes of FIRO, WND, Donaldson, et al, who have a clear agenda and are typically immersed in "investigations" into everything from JFK to "chem trails". During my time on FreeRepublic I have become very familiar with Asmodeous. He is obviously well known in other places as well, as everyone seems to eventually ask him if he is Elmer Barr. I don't know who Elmer Barr is, but it does make me wonder if the circle of folks who follow this TWA 800 stuff aren't a rather small and dedicated group. They seem to drift into FreeRepublic, stir up a few threads, and then disappear. I notice already that you have two threads in the "Breaking News" column. No offense, but I don't really consider your "Shot in the Dark" article to be "Breaking News".

The reason I don't have access to Exhibit 3E is because the NTSB hasn't published it on its website. I did a Google search and couldn't find it anywhere on the web. As I said before, this is a hobby, not an obsession, and I don't really care to order the CD. I do have access to 18A so let me know what your anomoly is.

57 posted on 07/27/2002 7:09:36 PM PDT by Rokke
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