Fabricate - To concoct in order to deceive
EXAMPLE: Your title for this thread. There is no "ongoing" disssent between Tobin and the FBI leadership about whether or not Flight 800 was the victim of a missile or bomb. The FBI leadership belatedly AGREED with Tobin years ago that there was no physcial evidence of a missile or bomb.
EXAMPLE: Your allegations that Tobin's expert metallurgist opinion on that issue was hasty, premature, unprofessional and inept even though NO other expert metallurgist has ever made any such allegations about Tobin.
EXAMPLE: Your doctored "quote" of Tobin in your reply #38 referred to in my reply #39.
EXAMPLE: Your allegations that I am a disinformationalist [see #36], common knowledge SHORTHAND in all the Flight 800 forums and related internet discussions for the past six years for a government agent engaged in the felonious criminal coverup of "the truth". I'm not and your concocted allegations that I am are the ULTIMATE in unfounded personal attacks.
BTW Barr, you will notice I use my REAL NAME......Why don't YOU use YOURS?........How many posting screen names do you have?
The document indicates that investigators had "little forensic documentation or guidance on large-body aircraft missile engagements, and no supportable mechanical or operational explanation for the crash." (Declassified Brookhaven National Laboratories FBI report, 1997)
Mr. Barr says....."ALL of the material damage experts who have examined the wreckage agree with Tobin."
The report goes on to say, that the initial metallurgical findings were reviewed, stating: A "cursory metallurgical peer review was conducted......" The report further states however, "No analysis or microscopic examinations were conducted."
Would you care to name any other metallurgists who examined or re-examined the TWA800 wreckage and fully concur with William Tobin? Can you advise us when these examinations and re-examinations took place? Can you advise us where we might obtain copies of these examinations or re-examinations? Can you advise us where we might obtain copies of documents relating to William Tobin's analysis of the TWA800 wreckage? Can you advise us where we might find documents relating to Mr. Tobin's analysis of the recrystallization of aluminum on the rear spar of the CWT? Can you tell us where we might find documentation relating to Mr. Tobin's examination of the overhead bin from Fl800 as alluded to in your prior postings? Can you provide us with information relating to Mr. Tobin's prior aircrash examinations? Specifically where any prior aircraft were submerged in seawater for several weeks or longer prior to examination? Can you tell us where we might obtain additional information regarding the tail number of the airplane where the "dog-training" exercise was allegedly conducted, and upon which the traces of PETN and RDX discovered on the wreckage was said to have come? Can you provide us with information re: Mr. Tobin's expertise relating to forensic evidence which may be indicative of liquid bombs? Can you provide us with documents relating to Mr. Tobin's previous examinations of commercial airliners destroyed by missile engagements?
Mr. Barr's deceitful methods.....
"Interestingly, there doesn't appear to be any such member in the Yahoo TWA800 forum. But, of course, any member can post with any name they wish after signing in. You, of course, are a member there. Would you do such a deceitful thing to try to show that you do have some support for your suitcase bomb theory?"
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"EXAMPLE: Your title for this thread. There is no "ongoing" disssent between Tobin and the FBI leadership about whether or not Flight 800 was the victim of a missile or bomb. The FBI leadership belatedly AGREED with Tobin years ago that there was no physcial evidence of a missile or bomb."
The title reflects just what it says.........There is considerable dissent re: the official conclusions in the Fl800 investigation. I believe we seem to be engaged in some now...no?
"EXAMPLE: Your allegations that Tobin's expert metallurgist opinion on that issue was hasty, premature, unprofessional and inept even though NO other expert metallurgist has ever made any such allegations about Tobin."
I believe Mr. Kallstrom first made that determination. After which he dismissed Tobin from the case....no?
"EXAMPLE: Your doctored "quote" of Tobin in your reply #38 referred to in my reply #39."
There were NO quotes in the paragraph to which you are referring. My purpose was to show Tobin's inability to heed the orders of his superiors. His constant questioning of authority, and HIS statement "... again flies in the face of MY interpretation as to whose aircraft this was." I prefaced it with the subtitle, "Not his decision to make"
NOT HIS DECISION TO MAKE
TOBIN: I was ordered to.......But it was in a very emotional, very frenzied manner, so I inquired as to why.....I was told.......which again flies in the face of my interpretation of whose aircraft this was.......But, so I inquired as to why........And I said, well I'm still missing some critical information, why.......And my response at that point was, well I'm still missing some critical information. Why.........And I was told, yes, we want that overhead bin and I was continued -- told to go find that overhead bin.
YOU "quoted" my non-quote. The complete text was already reproduced in your prior post in any event.
"EXAMPLE: Your allegations that I am a disinformationalist [see #36], common knowledge SHORTHAND in all the Flight 800 forums and related internet discussions for the past six years for a government agent engaged in the felonious criminal coverup of "the truth". I'm not and your concocted allegations that I am are the ULTIMATE in unfounded personal attacks."
That's YOUR definition of "disinformationalist" Barr, NOT mine. Very narrow, and viewed with the tunnelvision which it seems is your trademark.