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To: Salman
Actually, the HIND-D & E were (are) flying tanks. I still want to see the US Army develop a helicopter that can take a hit! These machines, no matter their supposed sophistication, are extreemly vulnerable to small arms fire. In Afganistan, Apache's out...A10's in!
2 posted on 07/09/2002 3:39:34 AM PDT by M. T. Cicero II
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To: M. T. Cicero II
Didn't the stinger neutralize the Hind in Afghanistan? I'm not debating the fact that the Hind is a flying tank.
3 posted on 07/09/2002 5:49:54 AM PDT by Mike K
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To: M. T. Cicero II
Take a hit from what? The Black Hawk has ballistic tolerant blades, driveshafts, and the gearboxes will run with loss of all oil for 30 minutes, self-sealing fuel tanks from small arms fire, etc.. I'm sure the Apache has similar characteristics... In a crash sequence both acft are far more survivable than earlier models.
4 posted on 07/09/2002 6:01:27 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: M. T. Cicero II
These machines, no matter their supposed sophistication, are extreemly vulnerable to small arms fire.

Simply not true. Modern Army aircraft such as the AH-64A/D and UH-60A/L have ballistic shielding and redundant systems to take some major hits and, at least get to the ground safely, if not fly out of harms way. The AH-64A aircraft engaged during Operation Anaconda took some heavy hits yet continued to support troops on the ground. One had it's TADS bucket (front sight) blown off yet remained on station to provide fire support. Another one took an RPG round to the # 2 Engine and transmission. The crew was able to fly the aircraft a safe distance, filled the transmission with extra fluid, then flew it 38 minutes back to Bagram Air Base. They landed safely with a completely dry transmission.

Yes, the HIND aircraft are heavily armored, but are not nearly as manueverable. They were designed to support Soviet style mass attacks against NATO forces. A-10's are great at what they do, but are even more effective when working as part of a Joint Air Attack Team (JAAT) with attack helicopters and other fire support assets.

For all of it's faults (and bad, undeserved press) the AH-64 is a great aircraft and quite lethal.

5 posted on 07/09/2002 6:41:37 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: M. T. Cicero II
In Afganistan, Apache's out...A10's in!

Now this is a flying tank!


7 posted on 07/09/2002 7:07:19 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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