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To: eastsider; Antoninus
I'm totally convinced of the complicity of bishops on issues like these. Their passivity is telltale. How many and who are two vital questions.
26 posted on 07/09/2002 10:28:32 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: ThomasMore
I'm totally convinced of the complicity of bishops on issues like these. Their passivity is telltale.
I've concluded from my research that the bad bishops and the good bishops share the same M.O. -- they send out surrogates to do the dirty work for them. For example, Bishop Pilarczyk of Cincinnati is sending out auxiliary bishop Moeddel to address the NACDLGM conference this coming September, just as Cardinal Egan sent out Msgr. Clark to preach about homosexual practices in St. Patrick's Cathedral while Egan was on his way to Rome with the other U.S. cardinals to meet the pope.

As hard as they try to keep their hands clean, the fact remains that they bear ultimate responsibility for what is taught -- by word or example -- within their jurisdictions. The buck stops with the bishops. And it's up to us to hold their feet to the fire.

28 posted on 07/09/2002 11:06:00 AM PDT by eastsider
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Maybe we should start by trying to determine in which dioceses the priests dying of Aids came from. When we find some with a high frequency we should approach the bishop on his own ground;the natural world and the primacy of a self developed conscience.

I imagine letters to them saying'"dear bishop,it seems to me that you have had many of your priests die of Aids,you claim you are compassionate,loving and forgiving and we should be too." "Yet you permit men who behave in ways that are very hurtful,to themselves and to those they have infected,to their families,who mourn their untimely deaths and to society in general,who must pick up the monumental costs to pay for research,treatment and education for those so afflicted,to enter seminaries and be ordained priests." "I do not know if you ever had Faith,or if you lost the Faith somewhere along the way,or if you still believe and are confused or intimidated so I won't appeal to the "sensus catholica" a good Bishop should have."

"No,I will just ask that you look at the facts with hard,cold eyes and recognize that if you think you are an enlightened, man of reason,you are not;reason would have forced you to speak out about the connection between homosexuality and Aids." "Or maybe,you believe that you are a compassionate,loving person who believes that tolerance and non-judgementalism will cause us to feel that emotional 'high',that little fuzzy faith feeling,that is god.Well,you are not that either,look at the suffering and pain you have caused".

"In conclusion,I just want to say that it seems you have lost your Faith in God and instead think man's intellect or emotion can replace Him".Well,you have demonstrated that sans Faith,brains or heart,nothing works."If you are too busy you don't have to take the time to respond,I would rather you think about what I have said and do something to right your relationship with God and man.Thankyou."

This is pretty rough but I think that since the clergy will not speak out to society in general with the truth,we may have to bring it to their attention.We are fortunate in that we can pray and call on all the angels and saints to implore the Triune God to help us.Any thoughts?

31 posted on 07/09/2002 12:19:08 PM PDT by saradippity
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