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Hurt Feelings Aren't Enough Of A Reason
National Journal ^ | 7/8/02 | Stuart Taylor Jr.

Posted on 07/08/2002 11:24:40 AM PDT by Jean S

"Why should I be made to feel like an outsider?" asked Mike Newdow, the California atheist who got two judges to declare the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional, as he explained his litigious urges to The New York Times. After he's finished stripping "under God" out of the Pledge, he hopes to rip "In God We Trust" off of our money. And he is itching to do something about the annoying proclivities of newly elected presidents to pray at their inaugurations.

The burden of hearing people go on about God at public events does not rank high on the scale of oppressiveness or deserve a constitutional remedy.

Wacky? Sure. But not particularly surprising. In his intolerant urge to stop more than two centuries of government sponsorship of innocuous bows toward religion, Newdow typifies the hypersensitive, illiberal attitude of more than a few crusaders for strict separation of church and state -- an attitude that has infected some Supreme Court opinions. And in his desire to make not being offended a constitutional right, Newdow has something in common with campus multiculturalists bent on censoring as "harassment" the uttering of political opinions that offend members of politically preferred groups.

Newdow's pseudo-constitutional objection to being "made to feel like an outsider" draws undeserved plausibility from Justice Sandra Day O'Connor's dubious contention, in opinions since 1984, that the Constitution forbids any governmental endorsement of religion that "sends a message to non-adherents that they are outsiders, not full members of the political community." Someone should tell O'Connor that lots of folks are made to feel like outsiders every day, in many ways; the burden of hearing people go on about God at public events does not rank high on the scale of oppressiveness or deserve a constitutional remedy. I say this as one who doubts the wisdom (but not the constitutionality) of the 1954 law that put "under God" in the Pledge.

The 2-1 decision in Newdow v. U.S. Congress to strike down the Pledge has been widely ridiculed as an example of the liberal adventurism long associated with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit. But in fairness to Judge Alfred T. Goodwin, the Nixon-appointed author of the decision, his logic was rooted both in O'Connor's formula for detecting establishment-clause violations and in the ill-advised language of Supreme Court precedents banning nondenominational prayers at high school graduations and football games.

Goodwin acknowledged that Newdow's 8-year-old daughter had not been required to join her classmates in reciting anything. But he held, "The mere fact that a pupil is required to listen every day to the statement 'one nation under God' has a coercive effect" and thus unconstitutionally compels students to participate in a religious exercise.

In reaching this odd conclusion, Goodwin relied especially on the Supreme Court's ruling two years ago that "the delivery of a pre-game prayer has the improper effect of coercing those present to participate in an act of religious worship" -- even though nobody was required either to attend the football games or to join in the prayers.

The facts of that case, Santa Fe Independent School District v. Doe, did raise real constitutional problems because the pre-game prayers were sponsored by school officials who were also said to have "chastised children who held minority religious beliefs." But Justice John Paul Stevens went well beyond the facts in an opinion for the Court that, dissenters complained, "bristles with hostility to all things religious in public life." He suggested that pre-game prayers would be unconstitutionally coercive even if initiated by a vote of the students, without official encouragement; dissenters would be "at the mercy of the majority," feeling a "sense of isolation and affront." A majority vote, Stevens explained, "guarantees, by definition, that minority candidates will never prevail and that their views will be effectively silenced."

"Silenced": a favorite word of campus speech-code enforcers who seek to justify their own censorial itch by claiming that they are impermissibly "silenced" if others are allowed to say things that they don't want to hear. Did some bright young Stevens law clerk seize a chance to slip such Orwellian reasoning into the law of the land?

Be that as it may, what we have here is a failure to appreciate vast differences of degree. It is one thing to see religious coercion at work when children are pressured by the threat of ostracism to join in the unmistakably religious exercise of reciting classroom prayers. It is quite another thing to see prayers as coercive when attendance is optional and any pressure on those present to participate is minimal. And when students do feel pressure to join in classroom recitations of the 31-word Pledge, they can easily skip "under God" if it offends them, without adverse consequences.

With some stretching, Stevens's logic in the football-prayer case could even be read as foreshadowing a ban on all patriotic rituals at schools -- not only those that mention God, as do the national anthem and most other patriotic songs, but also those that are devoid of religious content. Consider the recitation of (say) passages from the safely secular Bill of Rights. This would raise no establishment-clause issue. But it arguably would violate the free-speech clause, if a single student objected, under an updated reinterpretation of the Supreme Court's justly celebrated 1943 decision in West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette.

The Court held then that the free-speech clause barred "compelling" Jehovah's Witnesses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance -- which did not mention God at the time -- because such compulsion would violate their beliefs. The Court said allowing those students to be silent would not prevent the other students from reciting the Pledge. But that part of the decision is arguably outdated. Now that the current justices have said school-sponsored religious speech would amount to "coercing those present to participate," would not the same be true of school-sponsored patriotic speech?

There is, of course, zero chance that the justices, who follow the election returns, will exile patriotic rituals from schools. And it seems a safe bet that the commonsense view expressed by Judge Ferdinand F. Fernandez in dissenting from the three-judge panel's ruling in the Pledge case will eventually prevail on appeal. Vague governmental references to God, he wrote, have "no tendency to establish a religion in this country or to suppress anyone's exercise, or non-exercise, of religion, except in the fevered eye of persons who most fervently would like to drive all tincture of religion out of the public life of our polity." Fernandez also put his finger on the circularity of the majority's don't-make-anyone-feel-bad jurisprudence: "I recognize that some people may not feel good about hearing [phrases such as 'under God'] recited in their presence, but, then, others might not feel good if they are omitted." Hurt feelings do not a constitutional violation make.

Common sense was also the touchstone of Zelman v. Simmons-Harris, the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision on June 27 approving tuition vouchers for religious and other private schools in Cleveland. Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist persuasively held that giving vouchers to poor families desperate to escape failing public schools does not amount to an establishment of religion -- even if the vast majority of the voucher money ends up at religious schools -- as long as parents have a reasonable choice among magnet schools, charter schools, special grants for individual tutoring, and secular as well as religious private schools.

This is not to dismiss the fears of the liberal dissenters. The use of tax dollars to pay for religious indoctrination raises concerns close to the core of the establishment clause. And voucher programs -- unlike the Pledge of Allegiance -- could someday create problems more serious than hurt feelings. They could make religious schools dependent on public aid and thus subject them to intrusive regulation. And competition among religious sects for government money could foment conflict and damage the nation's social fabric.

But other programs have long channeled state and federal aid to religious schools without causing serious problems. The harms feared by the dissenters are speculative. Grievous damage is being done right now to the millions of inner-city children trapped in dismal public schools that prepare them only for lives of ignorance and poverty. Vouchers, although no panacea, are perhaps the most promising experiment yet devised for providing such children with decent educations and hope for better lives. It would be perverse to construe the establishment clause so rigidly as to kill in its cradle an education reform that could do the neediest among us a lot of good.

We have a long way to go to live up to promise of "liberty and justice for all" in the Pledge of Allegiance. The voucher decision was a step in the right direction.

Stuart Taylor Jr. is a senior writer for National Journal magazine, where "Opening Argument" appears.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; mikenewdow; pledge

1 posted on 07/08/2002 11:24:41 AM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS
But Justice John Paul Stevens went well beyond the facts in an opinion for the Court that, dissenters complained, "bristles with hostility to all things religious in public life." He suggested that pre-game prayers would be unconstitutionally coercive even if initiated by a vote of the students, without official encouragement; dissenters would be "at the mercy of the majority," feeling a "sense of isolation and affront." A majority vote, Stevens explained, "guarantees, by definition, that minority candidates will never prevail and that their views will be effectively silenced."

I know using logic to refute a liberal is an exercise in futility, but I will anyway.

Justice Stevens, what about the feelings of the lawmakers who are outvoted in the Congress? Are they at the mercy of the tyranny of the majority? Your line of reasoning would say yes. Doesn't it then follow, again, assuming of course that you can follow, that passing laws is unconstitutional for the reasons you state? That leaves us with a dictator, which seems to be the preference of leftists (I refuse to allow you folks to hide behind labels such as liberal or progressive). But wait, a dictator, even a benevelent one, can not please everyone so I guess that leaves us with God to rule us. No we can't have that, can we, because we must separate God from government.

Well, Justice Stevens, that leaves us with quite a quandry. I am thankful we have men of your wisdom to lead us through these crises.

2 posted on 07/08/2002 12:00:29 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: JeanS
Good read. Thanks for the post!
3 posted on 07/08/2002 12:32:37 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: JeanS; joanie-f
O'Connor:
" ... sends a message to non-adherents that they are outsiders, not full members of the political community."

A perfect example of a statement issued by a U.S. Supreme Court Justice, which is not lawful, it is not Constitutional; you do not have to be a judge to know this; furthermore, her statement is not enforeceable.

The Constitution does not give an absolute right to define what is, nor what was, to a judge; and no Amendment to the Constitution has yet done that dishonor.

Now, to the Justice's statement.

The First Amendment was written by people who knew how to read and write, they worked their documents over and over, to get them close to their original intent.

Why would they do that?

Because the very term, word, expression: "law" meant to them, fixed, adherence, firm, stability.

For example, would that your heirs decide that because you are a "dead old white guy," that original intent of your last will and testament which you labored over to express your perpetual wishes ... be all diluted to meaning - less - ness by your heirs' decision to make of your words what meets their demands, "right now?!"

You would be aghast (but perhaps not, knowing your heirs) to have your meaning spun otherwise.

What was the point of your labors, your sculpting the words to make them a memorial for the ages, when the "contemporary interpretations" of law is that the purpose of writing law, is to put down on paper mere words to be scrabbled into what pleases competiting lawyers in the ring.

Why bother with sentence structure if original intent does not matter; why not just list words?

Rediculous, such a game; no value to law is in it.

For law to have value, it must be respected for its original intent; same for your last will and testatment.

The original intent of the Framers and Founding Fathers, was not that of Thomas Jefferson's 1806 letter alone, wherein he mentioned the "separation of church and state;" the other old dead white guys' combined efforts are vastly more important --- they wrote it, and they approved it for transmission to the new states (which, by the way, had not yet totalled thirteen) ... with the blessing of George Washington.

The original intent of the Framers and Founding Fathers had nothing to do with "sending a message" to non-believers in man's Creator, that they were members, let alone guaranteed members, of the American political community. The Framers and Founders did not do this, "sending a message," because no such guarantee was required.

In fact, for all who bother to notice, in the body of the Constitution (that's the part prior to reading the Bill of Rights), is the matter of there not being a religious test for government office:

Article VI, Section III:

" ... no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

That's right; the Justice has her history incorrect and has improperly applied her solution upon the First Amendment where her solution has no standing.

Now some legal scholar may come along and try to be very particular about that Section and its application, but I challenge their attempt to make logical their particulars in the face of their manifest transgressions of the Framers and Founders original intent as well as what they said in their sculpted works, The First Ten Amendments.

Such "legal experts' would have you peer narrowly where they want and wide where they want, and not challenge their corrupt "interpretations" which they dub "living" --- they sound like fascists who'll tell you that "Work makes you free" as they march you off into a controlled state.

Our individual Liberty and our individual responsibility, our duty, require us to exert our authority as the people, to bear down upon judges, lawyers, and "legal experts" who mock the sincere efforts of George Washington and our forebears.

You cannot tell me honestly, that he was a man who believed in a government by judiciary. Thomas Jefferson was his Secretary of State, and he also did not believe in a government by judiciary; same is true for Alexander Hamilton, Secretary of the Treasury; and true for Knox, Secretary of War --- all men determined to form a new federal government responsive to laws made by the duly elected representatives of the people, sitting as the Congress.

Jefferson was a States Rights advocate, who thereby sought the strength of the democratic-republic structure against what he and his fellow "Republicans" feared could become a purely national American government, sans the individual States.

Yet among the "Republicans" were social democrats, then inflamed by the French Revolution, and they were inclined to point out Thomas Jefferson as their model --- but his conceptions for protection of the people against government, by way of the democratic-republic bode well against a government by judiciary, and against the absolute committee of the French Revolutionaries massacring French citizenry for their political incorrectness.

The French model of social "democracy" headed by supreme committees of social judges was not what Jefferson would promote as a check against tyranny.

And checks against government are the purpose of The First Ten Amendments to the Constitution.

The "test" to apply, is not Justice O'Connor's misconception.

Instead, the test is:

Was the protection from government, which is notably protection affirmed by the very First Amendment, denied the petitioner because Congress made a law respecting an establishment of religion, or Congress made a law prohibiting the free exercise of religion?

4 posted on 07/08/2002 1:19:41 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: JeanS
"Why should I be made to feel like an outsider?" asked Mike Newdow, the California atheist

Because you are one.

5 posted on 07/08/2002 6:26:57 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Argus
"The mere fact that a pupil is required to listen every day to the statement 'one nation under God' has a coercive effect"

Gee, I can only imagine being drafted would really put a crimp in that guy's style when he grows up, huh. This country sure has some real panty-waist mofo's lately....

6 posted on 07/08/2002 7:16:28 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: JeanS
He must then feel like an outsider each July 4th, or when the Liberty Bell is displayed with it's inscription from Leviticus or when the National Anthem is played.

How may we as a people help him feel part of this nation?

Shall we convert him to Christianity?

Better to quickly ignore him as this publicity surley is makeing him feel foreign and allow him his right to worship as he see’s fit while allowing us to do the same. "Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand Between their loved homes and the war's desolation!

Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land

Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.

Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,

And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."

And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!"

7 posted on 07/08/2002 9:20:49 PM PDT by Kay Soze
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Right

"dissenters would be "at the mercy of the majority," feeling a "sense of isolation and affront." A majority vote, Stevens explained, "guarantees, by definition, that minority candidates will never prevail and that their views will be effectively silenced."

I did not mean to beat up the homosexual man but the fellows I was with made my views a minority and as such I knew I could not prevail and I was effectivly silinced.

8 posted on 07/08/2002 9:31:52 PM PDT by Kay Soze
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Curious "But other programs have long channeled state and federal aid to religious schools without causing serious problems."

Please give me some examples of long channled state and fedreral aide to religious schools.

9 posted on 07/08/2002 9:44:46 PM PDT by Kay Soze
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To: JeanS
Reminds me of that old DiNero line from the movie:

Have you ever killed anyone?

No, but I hurt someones feelings once.

10 posted on 07/08/2002 9:56:55 PM PDT by paul51
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To: Kay Soze
Please give me some examples of long channled state and fedreral aide to religious schools.

I am confused as to whether you think I said that, which I didn't, the author did, or you are just commenting about it, or if you would like some input from me on the subject. Same with your other post to me.

As to the "other programs" I don't think of any off the top of my head but I don't doubt that is true. There are so many government programs that hand out money, and extend government control and influence, that I have little doubt that some are directed to religious groups. There are many government programs we are not even aware of and do little but support the bureaucracies that they created. Under the SBA and HUD there are a multitude, some of which I run across in the local news or in my daily life, and that is just two government agencies.

11 posted on 07/09/2002 8:08:04 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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