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What Muslims must do
Boston Globe ^ | 7/6/2002 | Abdul Cader Asmal

Posted on 07/06/2002 9:32:32 AM PDT by a_Turk

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: dirtboy
I have my suspicions too with this writers projections.
It would not suprise me in the least to find waves of these [sent ahead with guidelines]...Muslim appologists in the U.S..
Those speaking here ..will be groomed to speak to an American audience...then there is the crowd who will do the Euro thingy.

I feel Daniel Pipes just nailed it a few months back with...
"Islam...embittered and envious....sitting on the periphery of the Economic world ...sulking!"

121 posted on 07/08/2002 12:52:10 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: E Rocc
The inquisition, as horrible as it was and as much as it contributed hundreds of thousands of Jews to my culture, can in no way be used as an excuse for the cowardly acts of these terrorists, who do not have the means nor the honor to open a front in terms of real war, but assasinate and injure unsuspecting civillians.

This was not meant as an attack on you, friend, I'm sure you recognize that there is no excuse for the acts of these cowards, whether the crusades, nor the inquisition, nor the US support for Israel can be used to pardon this act.

I hope you won't get assailed by FReepers who misread the intention of your text.
122 posted on 07/08/2002 12:56:43 PM PDT by a_Turk
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To: E Rocc
It's not just me who's saying that Islam as a whole did not condemn 9-11; the Islamic author of the article is saying that as well.
123 posted on 07/08/2002 12:56:49 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: a_Turk
As a former soldier who had the honor of serving with some of your countrymen, I must apologize for some of the posters here.

There is as much difference between Arabs (whom we normally think of when we think of Moslems) and Turks as there are between Americans and the French.

Turkey, with its strict seperation between church and state is a beacon for the Islamic world to be drawn to.

The Turks have the answer if only the rest of the Islamic world will follow.

Cheers,

knews hound

124 posted on 07/08/2002 1:10:30 PM PDT by knews_hound
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To: a_Turk
The inquisition, as horrible as it was and as much as it contributed hundreds of thousands of Jews to my culture, can in no way be used as an excuse for the cowardly acts of these terrorists, who do not have the means nor the honor to open a front in terms of real war, but assasinate and injure unsuspecting civillians.
Very true. But it's still somewhat stunning to see a Christian rant about Muslim atrocities in Spain, claiming that's meaningful today. Pots and kettles come to mind.

-Eric

125 posted on 07/08/2002 1:12:31 PM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Redcloak
It's not just me who's saying that Islam as a whole did not condemn 9-11; the Islamic author of the article is saying that as well.
If he said that no Islamic groups condemned it, he's incorrect as well.

-Eric

126 posted on 07/08/2002 1:18:24 PM PDT by E Rocc
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To: E Rocc
No one can logically claim they represent all Christians. To claim that Al-Qaeda represents all Moslems is just as foolish.

I didn't claim that McViegh represents all Christians, nor did I claim that al-Qaeda represents all Muslims. I simply correct the author's false and undeniable implication that, because of his "background," McViegh was a Christian.

127 posted on 07/08/2002 1:26:04 PM PDT by beckett
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To: E Rocc
You are misreading both what I wrote and what the author wrote. We are both saying that Islam as a whole did not condemn 9-11; not that no Islamic groups condemned it. The occassional imam speaking at a mosque here or there does not constitute a wholesale condemnation of 9-11 by the Islamic world.
128 posted on 07/08/2002 1:29:57 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Redcloak
Islam as a whole did not condemn 9-11
Islam as a whole cannot condemn anything, as there is no leadership since we Turks abolished it in the 1920s.
129 posted on 07/08/2002 2:25:20 PM PDT by a_Turk
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To: knews_hound
As a former soldier who had the honor of serving with some of your countrymen
The honor is all ours..

Where did you come in contact with our soldiers?
130 posted on 07/08/2002 2:27:03 PM PDT by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
Here's another vote for a_Turk to remain (as a friend to America.)

I have nothing but respect for the Turkish soldiers I worked with and the civilians with whom I lived for 2 years.

Don't paint everyone with the same brush because we have many Turkish friends and a government that is allied with the US in the war on terror.

131 posted on 07/08/2002 2:40:45 PM PDT by zip
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To: elcaudillo
...muslims dancing gleefully in Turkish streets to celebrate the carnage caused suicide missions that cost over 3,000 American lives.

Source please. I don''t believe it happened in Turkey, although I know it happened in Columbia Missouri.

Source please.

Source please.

132 posted on 07/08/2002 2:44:20 PM PDT by zip
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To: a_Turk
I trained many of your countrymen during the 1970's for Electronic Theory and applications.

They were always eager to learn and were motivated soldiers.

But dont get me started on the Saudis and the Jordanians, whew !

Fragrant is the best word I would use.

It is sad that I have read so many responces here that equate Turkey with the Arab countries.

The difference is stark and obvious to even the most casual observer.

I hope to see you around a_Turk, we have commented on many of the same posts and I have always been impressed by your logical responces and thoughtful remarks on the world situation, I hope I read many more in the future.

Cheers,

knews hound

133 posted on 07/08/2002 3:04:10 PM PDT by knews_hound
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To: a_Turk
I certainly learned something here today.

Thank you a_Turk

Eaker

135 posted on 07/08/2002 4:01:57 PM PDT by Eaker
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To: a_Turk
Where did you come in contact with our soldiers?

Incirlik.

136 posted on 07/08/2002 4:05:55 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: zip
See post 115. I wasn't only wrong, I was dead wrong.

No dancing in the streets of Ankara.

137 posted on 07/09/2002 6:58:57 AM PDT by elcaudillo
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