One of Apostles was a woman, Church is told

The Times (UK) ^ | July 06, 2002 | Our Religion Correspondent

[JudyB1938]

I wondered, so did a search. Here's some interesting articles:

The lady was a pope

The Straight Dope / Was there once a female pope?

Pope John -- Or Joan? (written by a feminist/athiest)

[Rome2000]

Until the Pope says there was a female Apostle, there was no female Apsotle, no matter what a bunch of silly British heretics have to say.

[Utopia]

Until the Pope says there was a female Apostle, there was no female Apsotle, no matter what a bunch of silly British heretics have to say.

Did the Vatican ever formally renounce the silly idea that the sun revolved around the Earth?

[winslow]

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[winslow]

Ok forgot how to use HTML. Will do refresher. Address is: http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/cb mw/rbmw/

[xzins]

This is the sole verse in the entire bible that mentions Junias. It is in a greetings section at the end of the book of Romans. I have provided it in a literal translation from the Greek (YLT).

Romans 16:7 salute Andronicus and Junias, my kindred, and my fellow-captives, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in Christ before me.

Adronicus and Junias are: (1) Paul's kindred or relatives. (2) Prisoners with him, (3) two persons whom the apostles have noticed...i.e., 2 non-apostles who have been noted by the apostles is the most comfortable reading of this text, (4) they were Christians before Paul was a Christian.

There is no female apostle in this text AND everything else is absolutely pure conjecture that will be thrown out of serious theological discussions, not because of sex bias, but because of the paucity of the argument.

[sobieski]

And thus started a religion based on divorce. Except that his heir (the king of Great Britain) today cannot be divorced!

[RaceBannon]

I just learned a new word!! LOL!

[PresbyRev]

I am taking a group of youth from my presbytery to a week-long youth conference --- FR withdrawal :-0 next week. Today I am running around like a whacked out goat. Before I leave to fetch our van, let me comment: It is easy to say 'no sale.' I respect that position. It is not simply a matter of verse-slinging and vying with 'proof-texts.' It is an issue of taking a number of examples from the ministry of Jesus; the marks and meaning of 'apostle' in the NT; the fact that elder/deacon/bishop overlap in function in the NT; looking at the gender of names - the role and designation of various 'officers' in the NT, whether you regard those 'officers' as more functional/charismatic or more institutional. However, the evidence is there, I am not going to engage in trying to overwhelm 'your proof-texts' with 'my proof-texts.' The answer is in Scripture, in the Greek and in evidences from the first century or two of the Church. Yet, when I have some more time this afternoon, I'll jump back in and offer up the exegetical reasons supporting the ordination of women, as well as men, to all the offices and ministries of the Church. Again - check out Christians for Biblical Equality and order Aida Spencer Besacon's "Beyond the Curse." It's a good introductory text and offered by a scholar affirming the infallibility of Scripture, a conservative evangelical.

[sheltonmac]

Even if this were true, it would no more support the ordination of women than the fact that Deborah held the status of prophetess and judge in the Old Testatment. If they are trying to use this to call for the ordination of women, they still have to get past Paul's writing in I Timothy.

I wonder what surprises liberal theologians and hostorians have up their sleeves. Will we one day learn that "Christ" was in fact "Christina," the daughter of God?

[elcaudillo]

This ridiculous article coming from the premier newspaper from a Godless country sinking into the tar pit of atheism.

[jude24]

bahhh...

who cares what some pointy-headed academic 2,000 years after the fact hypothesizes? Certainly has no effect on what I believe.

Suffering here from what C.S. Lewis called "Chrisitianity and ...". That is, in this case, it's "Christianity and feminism" that the author here brings to the table. Her agenda is radical feminism, and she sees Christianity through that political ideology.

Academia struggles from a shoddy hermaneutic that colors all they see in the Bible. I find it fascinating that my car mechanic, with little formal education after high school, knows and can handle the Scriptures far, far better than this intellectual.

[RnMomof7]

Edited by Piper.......love the guy..Thanks

[RnMomof7]

It always worries me when I agree with you and not a Presbyterian rev :>)

[piasa]

I've been accused of many things in my time but soft-heartedness was not one of them....

[johniegrad]

Joanna and Chuza were among the large numbers of disciples who gathered when Jesus appeared to rise from the dead.

I stopped here. Why is there any discussion about this article at all?

[xzins]

This week has been full of weird alliances on the threads. Whodda thunk it! :0)

[He Rides A White Horse]

ya think..LOL

We've heard that Jesus was a homosexual before also. No limit to the attempts to "PC" the Bible.

[iconoclast]

Feminism & PC-dom aside, why does it sometimes (often) seem Paul succeed in a 'leveraged buy-out' of the Jewish reformation initiated by Jesus?

I've wondered the same thing (often) and for a long time.

[Bill Rice]

Me thinks these folks should read Bobbed Hair, Bossy Wives, and Women Preachers