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Aw, please. The public schools have never been "forced to compete" and won't be forced to do any such thing just because a new welfare program is instituted. Right now, public schools are losing the comparison with private schools and homeschoolers. They have been shown to be inferior consistently for 20 years and there has been no change in the way they do things except in the amount of money they waste. Letting the same government thieves control private shools that now control public schools is ridiculous and that's exactly what vouchers will end up doing.

Your state doesn't have the money to give a voucher to every student enrolled in the public schools. They'll ask for and receive federal dollars to play this game. Naturally, you know this and it doesn't bother you at all. You're saying now that this should be a federal program. I expected this kind of liberal nonsense out of the other voucher proponents on this thread, but you're surprising me here.

I'm not really surprised that this is such a hot item with republicans right now. It just reinforces what I've always observed about republicans; that they oppose democrats and think that alone can make them conservative. Thanks for showing me that you would rather have the federal government pick my pocket than to tighten your own belt, sacrifice some budget items and pay the tutition for your own children.

Yeah, you boys are just soooo much better at reducing the size of government than the democrats are. Excuse me while I throw up.

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You are so wrapped up in a faulty definition of "welfare" that you can't see the forest for the trees. From your definition, "welfare" amounts to any payment from the government in any way, shape or form. You keep ranting about vouchers being nothing but a welfare program; I can't look at it that way - it is nothing of the sort. Until you get off of that kick (and the associated rants about Republicans not being real while discussing that notion), we can't even get to square one.

You don't understand what and where these will benefit. That's fine. But you're as bad as the guy last week who got on this RINO kick with J.C. Watts.

You've got no clue as to what belt tightening is - otherwise, you wouldn't make such a statement. I'm not going to go on a rant about how hard my life is; that's immaterial here.

What is material is that you and I are on the same page about public schools being inferior to private schools. Given that, what is the problem with demanding not to have to pay into such a system?

Not only that, what's wrong with getting my money back out of that system?

Here's the other side of the coin here - the vouchers cannot and will not be able to pay the entire freight for most private schools. This alone will keep quite a few in the public schools right where they are.

I'm done with your circular logic. When you come back from throwing up, let this one alone. We obviously aren't on the same page overall, and won't be.