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FBI: LA Airport gunman was an Egyptian-born resident of Irving, California
Ha'aretz ^ | July 5th 2002 | News Agencies

Posted on 07/04/2002 11:06:04 PM PDT by ChicagoRepublican

According to the ticker on top of Ha'aretz the FBI is reporting that the LA Airport gunman was an Egyptian-born resident of Irving, California.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbiwatchlist; hadayet; israel; lax; laxshooter; terror
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To: heleny
The practice test idea is scarier, though, since they can evaluate the police response plans and develop future plots.

This was an inefficient onslaught. It was fated to have limited casualties. If it was a dry run, the attack was severe enough to expose every security asset and procedure, but limited enough to not warrant a radical redeployment or redesign of those assets and procedures. That's my little paranoid twitch about this event. If the guy is wacko, the events make sense too.

281 posted on 07/05/2002 1:30:56 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: patriciaruth
Ashcroft is profiling the granting of visas from what I have read.

No offense, but I honestly laughed out loud at this.

This is like testing pH at the bottom of a leaky boat.

We don't need more Moslem visas, however carefully screened, we need the Moslem non-citizens currently here to go home.

BTW, Saudi Arabia still has fast track visa status, meaning a Saudi can get one through a travel agent over there and touch down on our soil without ever having been in the same room as an American. It's automatic!




282 posted on 07/05/2002 1:35:12 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: cavador
He is obviously an AL-Queida Sleeper.He has been in Irvine since '92.Has been waiting all this time,waiting for a signal to begin his attack.(Perhaps an email or something.) Watch your back guys,there are possibly 10,000 or more just like him,sitting back,planning and waiting for a certain signal before they act. Maybe the government should start kicking some of them out,or building very large walls around Irvine to keep them in Irvine(like a detention centre) I'm just glad that I live in Oz. where terrorism virtually DOSEN'T exist. Any way, GOD BLESS AMERICA and have a safe & HAPPY 4th JULY.


You're not being sarcastic are you?

283 posted on 07/05/2002 1:35:38 AM PDT by bok
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To: ArneFufkin
This was an inefficient onslaught. It was fated to have limited casualties. If it was a dry run, the attack was severe enough to expose every security asset and procedure, but limited enough to not warrant a radical redeployment or redesign of those assets and procedures. That's my little paranoid twitch about this event. If the guy is wacko, the events make sense too.

Many reports of ME types trying to procure polied and fire uniforms in the past month, and more.

Perfect for a follow-up attack.




284 posted on 07/05/2002 1:38:36 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Ashcroft is still holding a bunch of visa violators. IMHO he is not a leaky boat; he is the Dutch boy with his finger in the dike. And he definitely could use a lot more help and moral support.

I believe we can only really fight this war effectively if the Republicans win the Senate this Fall and hold the House.

285 posted on 07/05/2002 1:38:49 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Sabertooth
and thefts of flight crew uniforms are up too...
286 posted on 07/05/2002 1:42:12 AM PDT by PJeffQ
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To: patriciaruth
Ashcroft is still holding a bunch of visa violators. IMHO he is not a leaky boat; he is the Dutch boy with his finger in the dike. And he definitely could use a lot more help and moral support. I believe we can only really fight this war effectively if the Republicans win the Senate this Fall and hold the House.

I'm not blaming Ashcroft, and I'm beyond tired of the "win back the Senate" alibi for every failing of this Administration.

Getting ME non-citizens out of our country was the obvious strategic move of this war on 9/12/2001, at the very latest. The President could have asked the country to let him do this, and we'd have properly responded positively.

This is war, and our domestic efforts have fallen far short of the mark, because the aim hasn't been true.




287 posted on 07/05/2002 1:43:48 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Tooth, the first plan I'd put into place is a bill mandating draconian prison sentences - I mean 20 real years - for trafficking in counterfit identifications. We need to get a multitude of sting operations underway and start sending these anti-American saboteurs to Maximum Security Federal Prisons for a two decade stint of hard time. The illegal immigrant community is wholly reliant on these counterfitters. They are vulnerable to stings - they're servicing guys fresh over the border. We need to eliminate these bastards, and make that occupation a very very bad risk to assume. That will make life significantly more difficult for the illegal interlopers.
288 posted on 07/05/2002 1:44:22 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Tooth, the first plan I'd put into place is a bill mandating draconian prison sentences - I mean 20 real years - for trafficking in counterfit identifications.

I'm all for that, and I can think of a few other steps.

BTW, one poster stated on another thread that the shooter had more than one ID... I'm trying to track down a link.




289 posted on 07/05/2002 1:52:10 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: ArneFufkin; Sabertooth
We live in a nation where the broadcast news brainwashes the populace based on the pronouncements of the New York Times, which is currently publishing our war plans for Iraq.

I agree with all your frustrations, but not with your assessment of the response of the public and the Senate to what we want to do, what we feel is necessary.

The President is out on the hustings working on public opinion as best he can, and J.C. Watts is heading for home. The American public in general is still sleepwalking.

290 posted on 07/05/2002 1:58:03 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Sabertooth
Yeah, he was 41 and 52 years old. Two different IDs.

There is nothing more perilous to us right now than the legions of foreign nationals who move within and outside our borders under fraudulent, untrackable and multiple identities. Abdul Ramadan comes into our country on a temp visa, he becomes Rasheed Mohammed and Sayed Al-Amman while he's here, he leaves the country as Abdul Ramadan as mandated, and he comes back as Rasheed or Sayed through American visas or through Toronto or Vancouver or the Virgin Islands. Nobody in our government, law enforcement agencies or immigration institutions knows who these guys REALLY ARE. Let's you and I try to go to Bulgaria, Norway or Argentina and pull that shit.

291 posted on 07/05/2002 2:02:41 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: patriciaruth
The American public in general is still sleepwalking.

The American people were put back to sleep after 9/11, just like they were put back to sleep after the shooting this afternoon.

For whatever reason, that's been a calculated policy of this Administration.




292 posted on 07/05/2002 2:05:24 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: healey22
We will not stand by and endure what Israel has been dealing with because our government would rather not offend the terrorist among us.

Your post gave me a good laugh. Let me see, which country frisks old ladies at the airport and which one uses profiling and absolutely refuses to let a suspicious individual onboard? Sorry, but the Israelis are not steeped in political correctness when in comes to Arab terrorists as our government is. Our officials waited hours and hours to release this man's nationality and the Israelis came out hours ago and called this guy out for what he was.

293 posted on 07/05/2002 2:11:10 AM PDT by dougherty
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To: Sabertooth
I don't believe it is the policy of "this administration."

Bush has led the politician pack in being willing to name our enemies and go after them. But as a politician, he has a keen sense of just how far out he can go and still have people follow him.

You may judge our current populace by your own world, the one you grew up in and live in, but many current "Americans" haven't got a clue what that means, and live in a completely different "world" than we do.

294 posted on 07/05/2002 2:12:52 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
Bush has led the politician pack in being willing to name our enemies and go after them. But as a politician, he has a keen sense of just how far out he can go and still have people follow him.

I'll believe this a little when Bush either sacks Norm Mineta or shuts him down on his anti-profiling nonsense.

The public wants profiling, the Congress looks ready, and the Bush Administration is once again, dragging it's feet.




295 posted on 07/05/2002 2:17:53 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Fate is ironic. Mineta was the only Democrat willing to join Bush's administration at a time when a close election warranted holding out an olive branch to the Democrats.

Who'd thunk Transportation was going to be such a b*tch?

Now what does he do? Throw out the only Democrat in the Cabinet? Undermine any semblance of Mineta's authority by overriding him so he quits and yells?

God, you may have discovered, has a perverse sense of humor.

296 posted on 07/05/2002 2:24:43 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Dave S
For a terrorist attack, this is a joke.

No matter how ineffectual this guy was when compared to Atta and his cronies, I'm sure he did it for the same reason as Atta. I don't understand why he just went in with a gun and a knife. If I were to put myself in his shoes, I would have gone in with a bomb strapped around me like the suicide bombers in Israel.

297 posted on 07/05/2002 2:27:52 AM PDT by dougherty
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To: rudeboy666
Even if he was a lone murderer, I would still call him a terrorist. In fact, a lone fundamentalist muslim[how many are out there?!] with no ties to Al Qaueda or Hezbollah is more dangerous.

I agree, it's not the number of people involved, it's the intent. I also think that Al Queda is planning another big attack, but are waiting until we let our guard down. Even if that means having to wait a year or two.

298 posted on 07/05/2002 2:33:52 AM PDT by dougherty
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To: Sabertooth
Nighty night. Catch you another day for more toothy talk.
299 posted on 07/05/2002 2:33:57 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: First_Salute
OK; one last time; when Secretary Mineta recieved the phone call, he asked: Whose grandmother was it?

LOL. Yes, the frisking of old women is definitely beginning to pay off, they have discovered a terror cell of grannies.

300 posted on 07/05/2002 2:42:18 AM PDT by dougherty
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