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To: muawiyah
>The Angles and Saxons were not Celts. They were Germans.

Actually, they were all CELTS. The Germani were merely another Celtic tribe, from which the name "Germany" is derived. They, among other Celtic Tribes gave the Roman Empire fits.  However, todays Germans are more Slavic then Celtic.

>Hey, that's us! 90% of all identifiable Celtic people live in the Americas or Australia these days.

Well that's close!  Make that ...live in Europe or North America and you've got it. The other 10% are in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, etc..............

113 posted on 07/04/2002 8:15:28 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
Is there anyone of European ancestry that was not impregnated by a Viking or Celt?
116 posted on 07/04/2002 8:16:42 PM PDT by Torie
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To: LostTribe
My understanding is that the Saxons weren't really Celts. The word Saxon derives from the special type of battle axe they wielded. Anyway, the trouble started when the Celtic Brits hired Saxon mercenaries to help them ward off invaders from the north because the Romans had their own problems with barbarian insurgents and couldn't help out any more. In any case, the Saxons eventually decided that they liked it in Britain and invaded.
125 posted on 07/04/2002 8:23:08 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: LostTribe
Go back to "identifiable". Where we had European cultures that were identifiably Celtic in origin, or where folks spoke Gaelic dialects, or Gallo, they have had massive emigration to the Americas! Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, Brittany, Galicia, Scotland - 90% of the descendants of the populations resident in those places in the 1500s now live here!

Certainly there are descendants of Celtic people throughout Europe, but they don't know it having been conquered by Eastern barbarians.

The jury is out on the Germans being just a different tribe of Celts, but the fact is their coloration is different. Now that's somewhat obscured in modern populations due to the population rebuilding efforts after the 30 Years War where numerous Irishmen and Bretons volunteered to help the German ladies have babies, but it's pretty clear the Germans are really different!

Gaelic speakers are known to have been at large in the Mediterranean previous to 700 BC, and resident at Troy for at least 1000 years prior to the arrival of the Greeks on the scene. They had a culture and civilization coincident with the first stirrings of serious civilization in the Levant. I read your site where you seek to turn Gaelic speakers into the "Lost Tribes", but you wait until 610 BC. The known dates for independent Gaelic civilization are much older than that and must be respected.

One of the prophets does note that David has in his ancestry a Scythian, and the Scythians at that time are Celtic. I'd rather think that's how Gaelic speakers ended up among the Semitic speaking Kurds occupying Palestine in the old days - they showed up in a boat and visited the ladies - nothing need be more complex than that.

136 posted on 07/04/2002 8:36:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LostTribe
I don't agree that Germans are just another variety of Celts. Germanic languages are not particularly close to Celtic languages. Celtic languages seem to related considerably more closely to Italic languages like Latin. Surely you wouldn't say that the speakers of Italic languages were just another variety of Celts?
216 posted on 07/05/2002 2:02:17 PM PDT by aristeides
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