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To: LibKill
The Jews didn't need U.S. help. They have brilliant scientists, home grown.

So did the Soviets,yet Jewish scientists living in the US and working on the Manhattan Project managed to give A-Bomb secrets to the USSR. The Soviets managed to use our technology to develop their own A-Bomb before the British did,and the British were our allies and working on the program with us.

The only help the South Africans gave them was a place to test the weapon. In exchange (I am guessing) Israel gave South Africa technology.

I'm thinking more than just technology. SA was being boycotted by a lot of nations back then.

However much you or anyone else hates Israel, 400 nukes are in the equation, now and forever.

You need to be VERY clear on this. I do NOT hate Israel. I even admire Israel and the Israelis. The people I hate are the Jews who are American citizens,yet betray us because they love Israel more than they love the US.

BTW. I ain't Jewish, not by blood or faith. But if I was I would be more than OK with it.

I'm not Jewish either,and am ok with them having nukes anyhow. I would prefer that WE were the only ones to have them,but this isn't the reality we have to live with. Isreal has them,and it is plain to everyone why they think they need them. As long as the religious nutcases never totally take over in Israel,there is no danger (in MY opinion) of the Israelis using them in a first strike against anyone. In fact,I'm a lot more comfortable with Israel having nukes than I am Pakistan or India,not to mention North Korea.

111 posted on 01/30/2003 7:18:08 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
" You need to be VERY clear on this. I do NOT hate Israel. I even admire Israel and the Israelis. The people I hate are the Jews who are American citizens,yet betray us because they love Israel more than they love the US. "

You must be kidding. Most Jews in this country are ambivalent about Israel at best. They vote liberal every election, and the only people who hate Israel more than liberals, are Arabs.

114 posted on 01/30/2003 7:24:49 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Sarcasm detectors on sale now in the lobby)
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To: sneakypete
You need to be VERY clear on this. I do NOT hate Israel. I even admire Israel and the Israelis. The people I hate are the Jews who are American citizens,yet betray us because they love Israel more than they love the US.

Message received, verified, and completely understood.

Just for the record, I'm no fan of Jonathan Pollard. I like him just where he is, under lock and key.

If I was offensive to you I apologize.

117 posted on 01/30/2003 7:33:32 PM PST by LibKill (ColdWarrior. I stood the watch.)
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