[rageaholic]

So who will now say that religion, for all its vast intellectual shortcomings, at least encourages the average Joe to be good (as the practical definition of morality used to run) while nobody is looking?

Obviously being a member of the clergy is has never been any guarantee of morality or character. I will now say that organized religions are just one more way the state controls the masses.

[gcruse]

 I will now say that organized religions are just
one more way the state controls the masses.

Opiate, and all that.  The founders strove for
separation to minimize this, but we seem
heaven-bent for leather to end up right
back in that soup.