[gore3000]

ID still allows for evolution,

I would disagree with that. The evolutionary process is totally happenstance, not organized. If something was designed it could not have arisen in an disorganized way. Evolution and ID are mutually exclusive.

[That Subliminal Kid]

Evolution is genetic variation and natural selection over time. Those are obvious facts of reality. I and other ID proponents who are read on this subject do not question them. We question their creative power, and are asking for evidence that they are capable of generating new specific and complex biological information. I've never seen any. I've seen lots of conclusions based on data, but of course conclusions are always based on a set of philosophical presuppositions about reality. These presuppositions themselves cannot be empirically verified.